I am absolutely convinced that LOST is actually a video game.
And I believe that the following description explains just
exactly how the game is played. For
ease of use, the top part of this page has been designed as
a "Quick Start" reference. A more detailed explanation
continues below it
I am thrilled to be able to say that each Season of LOST
has only made my theory stronger and stronger. And I defy
any fan out there to show me another comprehensive theory
that is as strong as mine, or one that can so consistently
predict what will happen on LOST.
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"Two
players. Two sides. One is light. One is dark." Locke
S1E2
The Light player is 'good' and the Dark player is 'bad'. At
the start of each level, the LOST characters are in a mixture
of 'good' and 'bad' roles.
The
Light player is required to manipulate the characters into
'good' roles by choosing the actions that they take when they
are faced with a variety of obstacles and situations. The
way in which the character responds to these obstacles and
situations determines which role
that character takes on.
The
Dark player attempts to manipulate the characters into 'bad'
roles by placing obstacles in their way. The obstacles can
be the various versions of the monster
or they can be introduced into the game by creating situations
via game prompts that can
result in 'bad' choices being made.
The
two players help to create the details about the main characters'
everyday lives on the island. And, the players also create
the characters flash backs and flash forwards by responding
to a series of prompts
during the game. A list of pre-set options to choose from
actually results in all of the duplications
that occur on LOST
The
cross connections between
the characters that appear in their flashbacks and flash forwards
are created by the game.
There
are specific instructions/rules that are being provided at
different times in the game. The instructions have been provided
over the course of the game. There were were very few rules
evident in Level1, but they have been increasing in the frequency
at which they are provided as the game progresses.
Points
can probably be won for a variety of accomplishments such
as finding items like the Dharma hatches & stations, the
power sources and maps
& keys. Points could also be won for actions such
as cooperating or saving
people.
There are six levels in
the game and there are time limits
for completing the levels. However, additional time can be
earned when a character accomplishes certain objectives.
The
Numbers (4, 8, 15, 16, 23,
42) are many things in the show, but one of the most important
things that they represent are the time limits for each level.
Level
1 = 42 days, Level 2 = 23 days, Level 3 =16 days, Level 4
= 15 days, Level 5 = 8 days and Level 6 = 4 days. Making the
total number of days in the game that our LOSTies will spend
on the island= 108.
A
level is completed when the time limit for the level has passed,
when all of the objectives for that level have been accomplished
and when the character in the role of the White Rabbit actually
goes down the hole.
Level 1 , Level
2 , Level 3 , Level
4 , a Time Out and Level
5 have been completed. See the discussion below for information
o of what to expect in Level 6
All
characters are Reset to
their original 'good' and 'bad' roles at the beginning of
the next level. S3E8 is a great example of a character being
reset. And S4E6 actually shows us the words "Master Caution
Reset" on the computer in the Tempest.
Memory losses and eye
color changes often result when a character switches to
a different role.
The
game is won when all six levels
are completed.
I
also believe that the game may be designed so that is could
also be played by just one player. In that case, the game
itself would take on the player position of either "Light"
or "Dark"
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Connections |
Power
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Cooperation/Team
Work |
The
Numbers & Time |
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Saving |
LOST
Time |
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Maps
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Game
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LEVEL 6 |
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Level
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Level
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a very good question. And one that I have been racking my
brains to resolve. I had initially considered the fact that
some of the characters have a very active interest in games
and could somehow be involved (i.e.: Walt, Locke or Hurley).
I
had also thought that we were given a hint early in Season
1 when Claire stated that she has searched through over 20
suitcases and still couldn't locate a hair brush. I thought
that perhaps this was an indication that Locke was a 'game
player' since he has no need of a brush. I now think that
is is simply a case of a brush not being on the list of the
pre-set options to choose from for the actual contents of
the suitcases and items in the cargo hold.
I
had also considered the fact that perhaps the use of the different
eyes in the opening sequences of several of the Season 1 episodes
actually represented different 'Points of View' on the part
of the 'game players'. A new Eyes
page has been added that discusses the opening eye shots,
the peculiar appearance of the main characters eyes in several
episodes and most notably their eyes in the Season
3 Promo Poster.
I have completely dismissed the idea that any of the
LOST characters are playing the game, in favor of there being
unidentified 'game players' completely outside of the game.
"Two
players. Two sides. One is light. One is dark." Locke
S1E2
Who
knows? It could even be JJ Abrams and Damon Lindelof who are
playing!
Considering
the fact that the second "J" in JJ Abrams' stands
for Jacob, I am starting to lean very heavily toward Abrams
and Lindelof being the players.
And
what about the planned final show of the series that TPTB
have told us they have known from the very beginning?
It may very well have the camera pulling back to reveal them
in a surprise ending that is as big of a surprise as the endings
of two other noted TV shows: St. Elsewhere's SNOW GLOBE and
The Bob Newhardt Show's DREAM. It's interesting to note that
snow globes and dreams have played a big part in the LOST
mythology.
And
when they do show us that LOST is, in fact, a video game during
the very last show of the series, it is entirely possible
that they will start with this shot of the game's circuitry
from "LOST Connections" on the Season 2 DVD and
have the camera panning back to show us the players.

By
the way, it's interesting to note that when the "LOST
Connections" first appears on the screen, Carlton Cuse
is asking the question "...or could there be a larger
picture still to come into focus?"
It
also gives a whole new meaning to Sawyer's quote from S1E3:
"You're just not looking at the big picture, Doc."
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has levels just like many other video games. There are six
levels. And that my friends is why there will be a definitive
end date as was discussed in a January 14, 2007 AP
article. When all 6 levels are completed, it will be "GAME
OVER". Whether the show's fans like it or not.
108
will be the the number of days spent on the island by all
of the LOSTies and does not include the number of days shown
in the Flash Backs, Flash Forwards, or the days spent by the
remaining LOSTies on the island when all of the Oceanic 6
were gone. Only those days when all of the LOSTies are present
on the island count toward completing a level, and therefore,
all of the Oceanic 6 will have to return to the island
to complete their full 108 days on-island.
The
game levels are as follows:
Season
1 = Level 1= 42 days
Season 2 = Level 2 = 23 days (Days 43-65)
Level
3 = the first 16 days of Season 3 (Days 66-81)
Level 4 = 15 days (Days 82-96) began during the last part
of Season 3 and continued into the beginning of Season 4
Level
5 = 8 days (Days 97-104), suspended on Day 102 when the Oceanic
6 left the island and the game went into a TIME OUT until
the Oceanic 6 returned. The Time Out ended when the Oceanic
6 returned to the island. The two last days of Level 5 were
completed and the change to Level 6 occurred just as predicted,
after Day 104 had been completed.
Level
6 = 4 days (Days 105-108)
At
the end of each level, a major reset of the characters occurs
at the beginning of the next level. And the crash of Flight
815 is seen at the beginning of a new Level.
"I
was unsuitable on several levels" Desmond S2E2
The Reset (aka "Loop dude, loop" Hurley S2E17)
The concept of resetting is very important to
LOST. It was vitally important in Season 2/Level 2 that the
clock had to be reset each time the 108 minutes had counted
down. It also represents another very important part of the
game, as it describes what happens to the characters during
the game.
In
the May
26, 2006 podcast, there is a discussion of the fact that
the characters' personalities are constantly being reset to
the original personalities that they had at the beginning
of the show. That the characters are on the island are to
be tested over and over again and that you have to go back
to square one over and over again.
And
that is exactly what happened between Season 1/Level 1 and
Season 2/Level 2. The characters were completely reset to
the roles that they
had at the beginning of LOST Season 1.
A
reset also occurred between the end of Season 2/Level 2 and
the beginning of Season 3/Level 3, and after all subsequent
Level changes. Where, once again, the characters were completely
reset to the roles
that they had at the beginning of LOST Season 1/Level 1.
In
fact, in S5E16 Sawyer says "Let me get this straight.
Jack sets off the nuke, which somehow ...resets everything.
", an indication that the end of Level 5 will occur when
Jughead's core is exploded.
What
was so important about the entire episode of S3E8 "Flashes
Before Your Eyes"? I believe that we have now seen the
mechanics of the reset.
Desmond's
entire experience with the flashes was actually him experiencing
his own character being reset. Think of Desmond's
"flashes" as being similar to what happened to the
clock in the Swan Hatch when it would reset after the button
was pushed, the numbers flashed by while it was resetting.
And when the button was not pushed, the hieroglyphics flashed
by.
Listen
carefully when Desmond has his "flashes" in S3E8
- the sound of the Swan
Hatch clicking as it resets can clearly be heard as the
"flashes" occur.
Desmond's
reset just took a little longer than it took for the other
characters to reset. And for some reason, he was much more
aware of it than the other characters. Perhaps it was a consequence
of the force of the implosion.
Level
4 began in Season 3 on the night of day 81 on the Other's
side of the island with the reset that occurred when Kate
and Juliet experienced the flashes. There were four
flashes, one for each level. This reset was also accompanied
by the same sound heard when Desmond reset, that is, the sound
of the Swan
Hatch timer clicking as it resets.
As
an interesting note, there have been some curious
camera flashes that were seen in Level 4. The first
occurred near Hurley
in S3E17, the second near young
Ben in S3E20 and the third flash was near Mikhail
Bakunin/Patchy in S3E22. The fourth flash was a red
flash that was seen in S4E3 when Locke is trying to locate
Jacob's cabin. I had said that I expected that there should
be a total of five of them to signal the start of Level 5.
And in S4E5 we saw the fifth flash- a red flash that occurs
on Sayid's
face as he is standing on the deck of the Kahana. Is the
fifth red flash that indicate that Level 5 has begun? No I
don't think so. But I do think that they are indicative of
the fact that Level 4 is ending.
As
for flashes, well S4E5 had more flashes occurring in it than
we have ever seen in any other episode before now. Just
as Desmond had problems with his reset in S3E8, I think he
is just having problems again with resetting. But
this time, he starts to reset prematurely as a result of the
lightening storm and gets "stuck" in reset just
like Eloise and Minkowski. As a matter of fact, there are
a number of flashes that occur on the helicopter before Desmond
has his initial Flashback, here are 5 of them (#1,
#2,
#3,
#4,
#5).
And although he gets back to the helicopter in 2004, subsequent
flashes from the thunderstorm continue to send him back to
1996 (#6,
#7,
#8,
#9).
When he gets to the boat, he flashes back in time when the
doctor
shines the flashlight in his eyes. Even Desmond knows
that it is the flashes
in his eyes that are sending him back, and later in the
episode he tries to get back by flashing
his own eyes.
The
big question is not why did Eloise get "un-stuck"
when she was flashed by Daniel's light, but why didn't it
also "un-stick" Desmond? Is it that Desmond has
been exposed to a larger dose of radiation or electromagnetism
than Eloise has been? It's also curious that Daniel's
light was purple, in essence Eloise's flash was the same
as making making her "sky
turn purple".
As
I predicted, S4E6 showed the end of Level 4 and the beginning
of Level 5 on the morning of Day 97. The
biggest difference with this Level change is that we actually
saw the words MASTER CAUTION RESET appear both on the Tempest
system map and on the
computer that Daniel was working on. In fact, we also
see Juliet and Charlotte being
reset under the blinking lights as they leave the Tempest.
When they arrive outside, they have been reset to the roles
they were in when they first arrived on the island, Charlotte
as a Lifeguard and Juliet as a prisoner.
S4E11
gave us a curious
flash that occurred as Jack ran for the satellite phone
that was dropped by Frank Lapidus. it was similar to the types
of flashes that occurred in Level 4 in S3E17 through S3E22
as detailed in the paragraph that is six paragraphs above
this one. This may be a sign that Level 5 is coming
to an end. And we may have had the Hurley
bird as there were birds chirping in S4E10 that served
to cover over the sounds that Aaron makes and to help hide
him from Keamy and his men. This could indicate that the monster
is working to protect Aaron or it could be the Hurley Bird
for Level 5.
Besides all the flashes of the cameras at the Press Conference,
S4E12 gave us some more more curious flashes. There is a curious
red
flash seen on the side of a tree as Jack and Kate walk
through the jungle and there is a red
ring seen around the sun in one scene. These flashes all
occur before the Level change so they are not related to characters
resetting, and the red
one on the tree may be the only one that is important
since it may signal that Level 5 is coming to an end. And
although Ben used a mirror to signal the Others on the mountaintop
with mirror flashes, I do not believe that they have any thing
to do with the Level changing.
S4E13
gave us many, many flashes. Most were red. Several red flashes
can be seen in the scopes of the guns (1,
2,
3,
4,
5, 6).
But there were also several more flashes that were seen: there
are a red and a blue flash seen above and to Hurley's
right as he is walking, and then a red
flash near his left arm, there is red flash seen just
above
Kate's head when she is on the helicopter and a second
red flash is seen when the camera comes back to her, there
is a white
flash seen over the island just before it disappears,
and the white/purplish
flash that appears as Ben turns the gear. Perhaps the
most important flash occurs in S4E13 along with the high pitched
noise after Ben has started to move the island. This the white
flash that we see
here. And it was not referred to as "when the sky
turned purple" as it was at the end of Season 2/Level
2.
S5E3
was filled with all sorts of red flashes during the scenes
where Miles, Daniel and Charlotte are being taken to The Others
military camp. Although at first they looked like they could
be caused by the sun, I don't think they were. See the red
flashes here
and here.
Both of these are very distinct and are located in the same
places, at the very bottom left hand corner of the screen.
They are very similar to other red dots and red flashes that
have appeared in some Levels.
S5E5
was just full of flashes again, we have the flashes seen when
Locke is turning the
wheel (1,
2,
3
), the on-island time travel flashes experienced by the LOSTies,
a red flash in the lower right hand corner as the voice from
the smoke monster's hole says "help
me" and also lots of flashing lights seen off-island
in the marina and also when Jack and Sun are in the car with
Ben.
S5E6
gave us one very big flash, the flash seen on Flight 316.
This Flash was the flash that indicated that the TIME OUT
had now ended and that Level 5 would now continue.

 
Level
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Level
1 Roles
You may want to read Roles,
before you continue reading this or it may not make sense
to you.
When
Season 1/Level 1 opened, the characters were in the following
roles:
| Jack/Doctor |
Michael/Artist |
| Kate/Prisoner |
Sun
and Jin /Star Crossed Lovers |
| Sawyer/Con
Man
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Claire/Mom
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| Locke/Hunter |
Boone/Lifeguard
giving Rose CPR S1E1 |
| Hurley/Millionaire |
Shannon/Useless
only worrying about herself S1E1 |
| Sayid/Terrorist |
and
my personal favorites
Walt/Dog Walker searching for Vincent/White Rabbit |
| Charlie/Rock
God |
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1 Objectives
Level 1 is 42 days long. During Season 1/Level
1 the LOSTies were required to take care of their most basic
of needs: to find food, water, shelter, medicine, defensive
weapons and to build a rudimentary social structure (Live
Together, Die Alone). They constructed temporary shelters,
Sun began farming (Jack and Kate helped by collecting seeds),
Jack and Sun set up the caves as a hospital, they designated
a cemetery and Michael designed the water purification system
for the caves. Besides the caves, additional locations discovered
include Danielle's shelter, the rope bridge, the Swan Hatch
and the location of the Black Rock in the Dark Territory.
During the course of Season 1/Level 1 their roles
began to change, often frequently, and usually into a completely
different role than they had previously been in.
To proceed to the next level, the Losties needed to
work together to find the hatch, to locate the dynamite and
to open the hatch.
But several other things were needed to complete Level 1:
1) All of the LOSTies had to be in 'good' roles
2) They had to be cooperating with each other for "The
Greater Good"
3) Someone had to take on the role of the Leader
4) The Fail Safe had to be identified and utilized
5) The Hurley Bird needed to appear
6) and the White Rabbit needed to go down the hole
7) We needed to see the plane crash again, and it was seen
at the beginning of the Level 2 to confirm our Level change
And here's how the requirements were met
1) Good Roles - The Season 1 Finale/Level 1 ended with the
characters in the following 'good' roles:
| Jack/Leader
and Jack says "I'll lead" S1E23 |
Michael/Cowboy
Sawyer says "Michael is gonna cowboy up" S1E23 |
| Kate/White
Rabbit
who goes down the hole into the hatch S1E24 |
Jin/Fisherman
he gives away Mr. Paik's watch to Michael S1E24 |
| Sawyer/Lifeguard
trying to save Walt S1E24
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Sun/Farmer
she and Jin have made up S1E23 |
| Locke/Man
of Faith
Locke calls himself a "Man of Faith" S1E23
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Claire/Princess
worried about Aaron S1E24 |
| Hurley/Crazy
worried about the numbers |
Boone/ Dead, he's been Useless for the 3rd time
Locke calls
him "a sacrifice the island demanded" S1E24
and S2E22 |
| Sayid/Soldier
he tells Charlie "I'm the soldier" S1E24
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Shannon/Dog
Walker
Walt gives her Vincent S1E24 |
Charlie/Tracker
Charlie goes off with Sayid to find Aaron S1E24 |
Walt/Prisoner
taken by The Others S1E24 |
Danielle/Mom
she gives Aaron back to Charlie S1E24 |
Aaron/Future
King
everyone working to protect Aaron & Claire S1E24 |
You
can cross reference the situations and quotes listed in the
chart above by checking the Another
Life section of this website or by reading the Season
1 Finale transcripts
2)
Cooperation - The Season 1 Finale had all of the LOSTies banding
together in unprecedented cooperation and working toward "The
Greater Good" to launch the raft and to get everyone
to a safe place. All of the LOSTies were in 'good' roles at
the end of S1E24. The only LOSTie that is rude and insists
that only he, and he alone, can perform a particular task
is Arzt in S1E23 when they are moving the dynamite. Just before
he blew to pieces. No wonder he died. He would not have been
able to move on to Season 2/Level 2.
3)
The Leader - Jack has finally taken over the role of the Leader
4)
The Fail Safe - Locke tells Jack in S1E23 that they should
split up the dynamite "It's not smart to keep it all
together. So we split 'em up. If we need 3 sticks to blow
the hinge, then we should bring 6... 3 and 3... failsafe,
in case one of us..."
5)
The Hurley Bird appears in S1E23
6)
The White Rabbit - Kate, the White Rabbit, goes down the hole
into the Swan Hatch (occurs in S2E1)
7)
We needed to see the plane crash again, and we did in the
Season 1 Finale
As
a final note on Level 1, Locke nearly became the White Rabbit
in S1E24 when he was being pulled down the hole by the black
smoke monster. All of the objectives had been met at that
point except for the fact that they still had not opened the
hatch. If Kate and Jack had not pulled Locke up out of the
hole, it would have been GAME OVER.

Level
1 Instructions
There is an interesting quote by Carlton Cuse in an interview
with James C. Poniewozik, the TV critic for TIME magazine,
regarding the fact that the LOSTies and the lack of
instructions given to them in Season1/Level1. The
article is also of interest because Lindelof and Cuse compare
the structure of LOST to a video game.
What
we do know regarding the rules is that the Level 1 objectives
centered around finding food, water, constructing shelters
and cooperating to build a social structure. There are disastrous
results when Sawyer, Jin, Michael and Walt attempt to leave
the island on the raft and disregard these objectives. Walt
is kidnapped, the raft is fire-bombed by the Others, and Sawyer
& Michael are separated from Jin. The indication is that
not following this on every basic rule of focusing on building
up the LOSTies social structure and instead attempting to
escape the island has somehow gone against a basic rule of
the game.


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Level
2 Roles
Season 2/Level 2 started, and guess what
happened? The game reset the main characters - and
all of our LOSTies are reset back to their original roles:
| Jack/Doctor
Locke says Jack "is our doctor" S2E2 |
Michael/Artist
no longer as brave and calling out for Walt S2E2 |
| Kate/Prisoner
she is locked up by Desmond S2E2 |
Sun
and Jin/Star Crossed Lover
Sun is worried about Jin S2E1 |
| Sawyer/Con
Man
back to being nasty and rude S2E2 |
Claire/Mom
the LOSTies are gathered in the cave to protect Claire
and Aaron S2E1 |
| Locke/Hunter
Enters the Swan Hatch to look for Kate S2E1 |
Shannon/Useless
she has lost Vincent S2E1 |
| Hurley/Millionaire
he tells Jack about the lottery S2E2 |
Walt/Prisoner
still a prisoner of The Others |
| Sayid/Terrorist
trying to capture Vincent
S2E1
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Vincent/White
Rabbit
missing again S2E1 |
Charlie/Rock
God
Claire discovers his Virgin Mary statue |
Desmond/Prisoner
of the numbers and the button S2E1 |
| Ana
Lucia/Sheriff S2E7 |
Mr.Eko/Man
of Faith
carrying the Jesus Stick S2E3 |
| Aaron/Future
King |
Libby/Shrink
S2E7 |
Level 2 Objectives
Level 2 is 23 days long. Season 2/Level 2
had the Losties continuing to build up their social structure
as Rose began organizing a makeshift pantry/kitchen on the
beach with the newly arrived supplies from the food drop,
they constructed more substantial tents & shelters, Eko
began building the church and the bathroom and laundry were
discovered.
Level
two introduced completely new environments for the LOSTies
to explore, the Dharma Hatches and Stations.
The
objectives for this level included continuing to enter the
numbers every 108 minutes as stated by Marvin Candle in the
Orientation Video, locating and entering the Pearl Hatch,
joining up with the remaining Tailies (more Live Together,
Die Alone) and joining up with Desmond.
Just
as before, the same things were needed to complete Level 2:
1) All of the LOSTies had to be in 'good' roles
2) They had to be cooperating for "The Greater Good"
3) Someone had to take on the role of the Leader
4) The Fail Safe had to be identified and utilized
5) The Hurley Bird needed to appear
6) and the White Rabbit needed to go down the hole
7) We needed to see the plane crash again, and it was seen
at the beginning of the Level 3 to confirm our Level change
And
here's how the requirements were met
1) Good Roles - The Season 2 Finale/Level 2 ended
with all but one of the characters in 'good' roles. There
was one character in a 'bad' role, Michael the Daddy. More
on him below.
| Jack/Prisoner
of The Others S2E24 |
Michael/Daddy
leaves on the boat with Walt S2E24 |
| Kate/Prisoner
of The Others S2E24 |
Jin/Sailor
on the boat with Sayid S2E24 |
| Sawyer/Prisoner
of The Others S2E24 |
Sun/Sailor
on the boat with Sayid S2E24 |
| Locke/Box
Man
Desmond calls him the Box Man S2E24 |
Claire/Doctor
taking care of Charlie S2E24 |
| Hurley/Teacher
sent back to tell the LOSTies not to come looking
for Jack, Kate & Sawyer S2E24
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Shannon/
Dead
Useless for the 3rd time |
| Sayid/Tracker
who finds the fake camp and the giant statue S2E24 |
Libby/Dead
her death "a mistake" according to Michael S2E24 |
Charlie/Construction
Worker
still building the church, even without Eko S2E24 |
Walt/Sailor
S2E24 |
Fake
Henry /Leader
"We're the Good Guys" S2E24 |
Ana
Lucia/dead |
| Aaron/Future
King |
Desmond/White
Rabbit
he goes down the hole to use the Fail Safe Key S2E24 |
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Mr.
Eko/Man of Faith
he tells Locke "If you open the door I will forgive
you" S2E24 |
You
can cross reference the situations and quotes listed in the
chart above by checking the Another
Life section of this website or by reading the Season
2 Finale transcripts
2) Cooperation - The Season 2 Finale has all of the LOSTies
banding together to get Walt back and they all are in 'good'
roles, except for Michael who is in the 'bad' Daddy role.
Like Arzt at the end of Season 1, things do not look good
for Michael at the end of Season 2. Although absent in Season
3 and slated to return in Season 4, Michael probably has little
chance of living for very long before he dies as a consequence
of his actions.
3)
The Leader - Fake Henry is the Leader
4)
The Fail Safe - To move on to Level 3, Desmond identifies
the Fail Safe Key as a way to eliminate the need to continue
to push the button.
5)
The Hurley Bird appeared
6)
The White Rabbit - Desmond, the White Rabbit, went down into
the hole to use the Fail Safe Key.
7)We
saw the plane crash again at the beginning of S3E1
As
a final note on Level 2, when the computer is shot in S2E2
Desmond says "It's over". The Level 2 objectives
had not been completed at that point and it would have been
GAME OVER if Sayid had not fixed the computer.
Level 2 Instructions
Season 2 Level 2 begins with Sawyer, Jin and Michael being
returned to the island, albeit, to the Tailies side of the
island. This is the first indication that attempting
to leave the island before all Levels have been completed
is not an option in this game.
In
S2E1, we met Desmond and saw the Swan
Hatch Orientation film that instructed the LOSTies
to type in the numbers and then push the "enter"
button every 108 minutes. This video came complete
with Dr. Marvin Candle providing instructions. This video
also served to explain one of the main objectives for Season
2 /Level 2.
In
S2E9 we get to see what is assumed to be a missing
piece from this video (found in the Arrow Station) spliced
into it. Again, the LOSTies are told that they must
enter the numbers every 108 minutes.
Early
in Season 2/Level 2, Desmond attempted to leave the island
in Libby's sailboat, the Elizabeth. In S2E23, just as Sawyer,
Michael and Jin had been returned to the island, Desmond is
also returned to the island. This is the second indication
that attempting to leave the island before all Levels
have been completed is not an option in this game.
In S2E21 the Pearl
Hatch Orientation video is found. The video is narrated
by Mark Wickman. After watching it, Mr. Eko is now
convinced that pushing the button is important because they
are meant to do it. That is, it is their purpose or objective.
Locke,
on the other hand, decides that it is a useless activity.
He not only decides that he will no longer push the button,
but he actually sabotages Eko's efforts to continue doing
so. Desmond is then forced to use the Failsafe key that he
had been told about by Kelvin Inman. Employing the Failsafe
Key stops the need for the button to be pushed. It also
completes the objectives for Season 2/Level 2 and allows the
game to progress to Season3/Level3.
The
Hurley Bird appears in the Season 2 Finale. In the same way
that the Hurley Bird indicated the end of Level 1 in Season
1, this second appearance by the Hurley Bird is an indication
that Season 2/Level 2 is coming to an end.
Michael
and Walt are seen leaving the island in a boat provided by
the Others at the end of Season2/Level 2. However, we can
fully expect to see Michael and Walt again since we know that
the Others lie and that they most likely lied to Michael about
his ability to escape, and we have also been shown that attempting
to leave the island before all Levels have been completed
is not an option in this game.


Level
3/Season 3
Level
3 Roles
Our LOSTies have once again RESET to their original
roles. As of S3E2, we had Jack the doctor, Kate the prisoner,
Sawyer the Con Man, Sayid the Terrorist, Sun and Jin the Star
Crossed Lovers. I originally thought that the Box Man hunted
but, after S3E3, I now realize that the Hunter is its own
role and I have made this adjustment. S3E3 gave us Locke the
Hunter, Eko the Man of Faith, Charlie the Rock God, Hurley
the Millionaire and Desmond the Prisoner.
S3E3
is the best example to date of the game
roles being clearly identified. At least 18 game roles
were referenced, including the following: Hunter, Farmer,
Murderer, Lumberjack, Dead, Rock God, Drug Dealer, Fruit Picker,
Criminal, Man of Faith, Sacrifice, Sheriff, Arsonist, Daddy,
Special, Psychic, Suicide and Lifeguard. And it is interesting
to note that Locke actually worked his way through many of
these roles during this episode.
| Jack/Doctor
S3E1 in car with hospital ID |
Sun
and Jin /Star Crossed Lover
S3E2 with both Jae Lee and with Jin |
| Kate/Prisoner
S3E1 in handcuffs |
Claire/Mom |
| Sawyer/Con
Man
S3E1 trying to trick (con) the machines in cage |
Aaron/Future
King |
| Locke/Hunter
Eko says "After all, you are a Hunter John"
S3E3 |
Desmond/Prisoner
his clothes and all possessions are once again stripped
from him S3E3 |
| Hurley/Millionaire
|
Mr.
Eko/Man of Faith
Locke confesses to Eko at the end of S3E3 |
| Sayid/Terrorist
S3E1 Sawyer tells Karl about being
tortured by Sayid and S3E2 Sayid says "I'll ambush
them. I'll take two of them hostage and I'll kill the
rest." |
Michael
& Walt have escaped from the island. If they are
seen again, Michael will probably be dead, just like
Arzt, due to his lack of cooperation. Michael led the
LOSTies into a trap and this is compounded by the fact
that Michael actually finishes S2E24 as Daddy, a very
'bad' role. |
Charlie/Rock
God
discusses using drugs S3E3 |
Vincent/White
Rabbit |
Juliet/Prisoner
crying at being held against her will by Ben S3E1 |
|
Level 3 Objectives
Level 3 is 16 days long. Like Level 2, Level
3 introduced us to completely new environments to explore.
These include the Others'
side of the Island, the inside of the Hydra Station, "Alcatraz"
island and the Flame Hatch. We actually had a foreshadowing
of "Alcatraz" in S2E16, when Ana Lucia was discussing
Ben/Fake Henry's map with Sayid and said "... but at
least we know we're on the right island".
According
to the May
26, 2006 podcast, the focus of Season 3/Level 3 was why
The Others kidnap Jack, Kate and Sawyer, where they take them
(Alcatraz) and what happens there. It also seems that the
LOSTies will band together and cooperate with each other to
get Jack back from the Others.
Perhaps
in order to "Live Together, Die Alone", the LOSTies
will have to learn to cooperate with The Others. And perhaps,
The Others have become a permanent part of the remainder of
the game.
Level
3 covered 16 days. Level 3 ended on Day 81 (81=42+23+16).
See the Numbers & Time for
more info. I had thought it interesting that 16 days was roughly
equivalent to the time frame that Ben/Fake Henry referred
to when he told Kate that "The next two weeks are going
to be very unpleasant."
S3E15 covered Days 80 and 81 on the LOSTies side of the island,
and Days 81 and the beginning of Day 82 on the Others side
of the island. See the Numbers
& Time for more info.
To proceed to the next level, the Losties needed to
work together to get Jack back from the Others
But several other things were needed to complete Level 3:
1) All of the LOSTies had to be in 'good' roles
2) They had to be cooperating with each other for "The
Greater Good"
3) Someone had to take on the role of the Leader
4) The Fail Safe had to be identified and utilized
5) The Hurley Bird needed to appear
6) and the White Rabbit needed to go down the hole
7)We needed to see the plane crash again at the beginning
of Level 4
And
here's how the requirements were met:
1) Good Roles - Level 3 appears ended with all of
the characters in 'good' roles.
| Jack/Prisoner
S3E15 A prisoner of The Others |
Juliet/Prisoner
S3E15Last seen handcuffed to Kate
|
| Kate/White
Rabbit
S3E15 Hiding herself and Juliet |
Jin/Fisherman
S3E15 |
| Sayid/Prisoner
S3E15 Handcuffed to the swings |
Sun/Fisherman
S3E15 |
| Locke/Man
of Faith
S3E19 Believes in the island |
Claire/Mom
S3E15 Taking care of Aaron |
| Hurley/Waiter
S3E15 Serving Desmond
|
Vincent/Lifeguard
S3E14 Trying to pull blanket from Nikki and Paolo |
| Sawyer/Nursemaid
S3E15 Holding Aaron
|
Eko/Dead
S3E5 Killed by the smoke monster |
Charlie/
S3E15 Role was not clearly identified |
Nikki
and Paolo/Dead
SE14 Buried alive |
Desmond/Hunter
S3E15 Hunts with Sawyer |
Aaron/Future
King |
Danielle/Mom
S3E13 Last seen as Mom staring at Alex |
|
You
can cross reference the situations listed in the chart above
by checking the Another
Life section of this website or by reading the S3E15 transcript
2)
Cooperation - S3E15 has all of the LOSTies on the LOSTies
side of the island enjoying the luau, complements of Sawyer.
On the Other's side of the island- Kate, Sayid and Juliet
were cooperating to get Jack back.
3)
The Leader - Sawyer stepped up to be the Leader (with a little
help from Hurley)
4)
The Fail Safe - Juliet enters numbers into the key pad
5)
The Hurley Bird - A bird can clearly be heard chirping in
S3E15 as Juliet walks past the window of the rec room to deliver
the tray of food to Kate.
6)
The White Rabbit - Kate was the White Rabbit when she hides
herself and Juliet in the trees and yells "Get down".
Note that the handcuffs can not be seen at this time.
7)
We saw the plane crash again in S4E14
So
what about Locke being in the 'bad' role of Lawyer when we
last saw him before the reset occurs? He was not in a 'good'
role at that point. once again we have him saying "I'm
sorry" to Kate as he walks out the door. It is getting
to be habit for him to apologize when he does something that
is not for "The Greater Good". However, in S3E19
when we saw what he was doing later on during Day 81 and 82,
he was in the role of the Man of Faith. Locke had decided
to believe that Ben/Fake Henry would share the secrets on
the island and that is why he decided to stay with the Others.
Level 3 Instructions
Level 3/Season 3 was very important to further understanding
just how the game is played and what some of the rules in
the game actually are.
During
Level 3/Season 3 several characters, including Juliet, Boone,
Mrs. Hawking and Nadia the cat, have shown us just how important
these characters are to understanding the game.
In
S3E1 Juliet has a thick file folder in front of her from which
she relates
bits and pieces of Jack's life history to him. Jack questions
her about what information is in the file.
Jack: "What is that?"
Juliet: "This Jack, is your life."
Jack: "Do you... Is it just about me or is it about my
family too? My friends?"
Juliet: "It's pretty much about everything."
I
believe that the file folder is a physical representation
of the rules and instructions for the game. Juliet
is consulting the instructions to learn what will
motivate Jack so that he can be manipulated into performing
the surgery on Ben/Fake Henry. Juliet also tells Sayid and
Sawyer in S3E16 that she knows all about them, indicating
that she has seen their files as well.
S3E3
is named "Further Instructions". In this episode,
Locke builds the sweat lodge and Boone visits him there. Boone
gives Locke instructions on what he must do next,
save Eko. Boone's appearance should be viewed as a game
prompt, a prompt that gets Locke to do the next thing
required of him.
S3E8
introduced us to Mrs. Hawking. While it appears, at first,
that Mrs. Hawking is simply another character in the role
of Psychic. She is actually the most important development
to date to the understanding of how the game is played and
what can and can't be done in the game. And is actually one
of the most important people that the game has to date. She
is in the role of "Teacher " and provides Desmond
with some of the most basic of rules.
Mrs.
Hawking gives us the following game rules:
1. The characters have pre-ordained paths that they must follow
2. A character can not save another character's life, if the
game determines that they are supposed to die (such as Mrs.
Hawking & Red
Sneaker Man or Desmond & Charlie)
3. The universe has a way of course
correcting when someone takes an action that they shouldn't
such as attempting to leave the island. Desmond
has apparently attempted to change the future each of the
three times that he has saved Charlie's life. In S3E17, Desmond
chooses to save Charlie. Charlie says to Desmond, "You'd
have gone and sacrificed me" and Desmond replies "If
the flashes don't happen exactly as I saw them, then the picture
changes. I was supposed to let you die Charlie" and "It
means it's pointless. I keep saving your life. It's gonna
keep happening again and again. Maybe that's the point, maybe
it's a test like God testing Abraham?" Desmond seems
to have changed the future so much by saving Charlie's life
that he actually changes who shows up on the island. Penny
had appeared in his flashes as being the rescuer that
would come to the island, but the person who arrives on the
island is Naomi
instead of Penny.
In
S3E9 we again see Juliet with a file folder.
She takes a picture of Ben's infected incision out of it when
she is speaking to Jack, She is obviously looking for instructions
for what to do for Ben.
In
S3E9 we also learn something about the Others from Alex "We're
pretty strict about killing one of our own" and that
there is "an Eye for an Eye" justice
amongst the Others. It is also possible that when Ben said
in his note that "the rules don't apply" to Juliet,
that perhaps the "Eye for an Eye" rule only applies
to the Others.
Nadia,
Mikhail Bakunin/Patchy's cat actually provides information
to Sayid by scratching at the rug. By paying close
attention to Nadia the cat, Sayid is able to discover the
entrance
to the Flame Hatch. Kate also realizes that Ms.
Klugh is important to finding Jack since she knows where
he was taken. Unfortunately, when Ms. Klugh tells Mikhail
Bakunin/Patchy to kill her (in Russian), and he does, Ms.
Klugh is eliminated as a source of instructions.
S3E11
provides us with more instructions. Locke plays chess with
the computer and wins.
He then views the Flame Hatch video. Once
again it features a character who looks exactly like Marvin
Candle/Mark Wickman but this time, we are not given his name.
Locke dutifully follows
the instructions given in this video. He enters 77 into
the computer because it instructs
him to do so if there has been "an incursion by the Hostiles".
Locke's
actions result in the Flame Hatch being blown
to pieces and the Dharma Instruction Manuals
are destroyed along with it. Fortunately, Sayid has retrieved
the maps of the cables
and the barracks
which will lead them to the Others and Jack. Therefore, the
maps will help the LOSTies achieve their main goal for Season
3/Level 3, getting Jack back and learning to live on the island
with the Others.


Level
4/Season 3 and Season 4
Level
4 Roles
Level 4 began on the Others side of the island when Kate and
Juliet saw the flashes during their reset during the night
of Day 81/early morning hours of day 82.
The
objectives of Level 4 appear to be to learn more about the
Others, the island and the Dharma Initiative, to save the
pregnant women from the Other's and to make contact with the
BOATies. Lindelof and Cuse discuss much of this in the May
11, 2007 podcast.
We
have several characters whose reset roles can be identified
at the beginning of Level 4
| Jack/Doctor
S3E16 Jack treats Claire |
Charlie/Rock
God
S3E16 wearing a Grateful Dead t-shirt |
| Kate/Prisoner
S3E15 in handcuffs |
Juliet/Prisoner
S3E16 of Ben/Fake Henry's |
| Sawyer/Con
Man
S3E16 |
Claire/Mom
S3E16 |
| Sayid/Terrorist
S3E15 carrying a machete in his backpack |
Vincent/White
Rabbit
missing |
On the morning of Day 82 Kate and Juliet are seen with the
handcuffs
clearly visible. Even though the handcuffs were deliberately
not shown in some scenes or hidden by conveniently placed
branches the night before as Kate went through several role
changes including the White Rabbit and the Nurse.
Although
Sayid was last seen, before the reset, handcuffed to the swings
as a prisoner, Juliet says to Kate "Sayid's in a backyard.
I'll get him". Sayid was never seen in handcuffs after
the reset, instead he appears with a backpack containing a
machete.
As
of S3E16, we also have Jack as the Doctor, Sayid confirmed
as the Terrorist with the machete, Claire as the Mom, Sawyer
as the Con Man, Juliet as the Prisoner and Charlie as the
Rock God. Charlie is first seen walking down the beach in
a Grateful Dead t-shirt, which means he reset to the Rock
God. Watch this episode to see how carefully Charlie always
covers
up the front of the t-shirt when he is holding Aaron and
is in the role of the nursemaid
In
S3E18 Juliet tells Sun that it has been 90 days since the
plane crash, but when she leaves the message for Ben/Fake
Henry she says that it is 6:00am on Saturday morning, which
would make it Day 88. Juliet is conning either Sun or Ben/Fake
Henry about the actual date.
In
S3E19 Locke tells Sawyer "I'm on my own journey now"
which means that he has decided to stop acting for the "Greater
Good". This is just one more thing that is putting Locke
in jeopardy of dying. See Deaths
below.
Level 4 Objectives
Level 4 is 15 days long. The objective of
Level 4 appears to be to learn more about the Others, the
island and the Dharma Initiative, to save the pregnant women
from the Other's and to make contact with the BOATies.
Lindelof and Cuse discuss this in the May
11, 2007 podcast.
In
S3E19 we saw a new
location on the island, the Ruins. Ben/Fake Henry tells
us "We're moving to an new place. Well, an old place
actually." We then see Anthony Cooper tied to a ruined
stone column and the indication is that we are now going
to be seeing the Ruins area where the four
toed statue is located.
The
second new location in Level 4 is Jacob's
House with the curious line of ashes around it that was
seen in S3E20. Locke
picks up some of the ashes to examine them. Ben/Fake
Henry and Locke
are careful to step
over these. The ashes are also seen on Jacob's empty chair.
Lindelof
and Cuse said in the May
11, 2007 podcast that the ashes around Jacob's
House are probably linked to the eruption
of the island volcano that is discussed in the Dharma
classroom when we see Olivia
demonstrate a volcanic eruption.
The
third new location that we see in Level 4 is the Looking
Glass Hatch that is found by Charlie in S3E21. We also
see the
inside of the hatch as Charlie
enters it and the two
women who take him prisoner.
The
fourth new location that we learned about in Level 4 was Pascal
Flats which was identified on the map that Ben/Fake Henry
used to determine his route to meet up with the LOSTies. It
may be the name of the area where the Others were camping
in S3E21 and S3E22.
The
fifth new location was the Radio Tower. Although we had heard
about it back in Season 1/Level 1, we had never seen it until
the Season 3 finale.
The
sixth new location was the Boat (the Kahana).
We
also learned about the Temple that Ben/Fake Henry told Richard
Alpert to move the Others to in S3E22.
The
final new location was the Tempest.
Tracking
exactly what day it was in this Level became complicated as
we started to get some conflicting information. In S3E18 Juliet
leaves a strange message for Ben/Fake Henry on the tape recorder
in the Medical Station. Juliet says that it is Saturday when
she leaves the message for Ben, yet earlier in the episode
she referred to the LOSTies having been there for 90 days.
Day 90 would actually be a Monday. Day 88 would have been
a Saturday.
As
of S3E22, when Charlie swims down to the Looking Glass and
the LOSTies leave the beach for the Radio Tower, we were apparently
only on Day 93 and still a few days away from the day that
the level should change (Day 96).
By
the end of S3E22 it seemed we were apparently smack in the
middle of that change from Level 4 to Level 5. But we were
still a few days short of when it should occur.
Here's
where we stood at the end of S3E22 when everything was indicating
that a change to Level 5 was about to occur:
To
proceed to Level 5, the Losties needed to work together once
again and meet several requirements:
1) All of the LOSTies have to be in 'good' roles
2) They have to be cooperating with each other for "The
Greater Good"
3) Someone has to take on the role of the Leader
4) The Fail Safe has to be identified and utilized
5) The Hurley Bird needs to appear
6) The White Rabbit needed to go down the hole
7)We saw the plane crash again at the beginning of Level 5
And
here's how the requirements had been met as of S3E22, it looked
like the Level change was about to occur, but it did not actually
take place until S4E6 when all of the requirements, including
the correct number of days had been completed.
1)
Good Roles - All of the LOSTies were in 'good roles' at the
end of S3E22
| Jack/Leader
and Sacrifice
S3E22 Willing to let Locke shoot him
|
Juliet/Man
of Faith
S3E22 Preparing to bury the dead |
| Kate/Tracker
S3E22 Identifies two sets of tracks |
Jin/Man
of Faith
S3E22 Preparing to bury the dead |
| Sayid/Man
of Faith
S3E22 Preparing to bury the dead |
Vincent/
Role not clearly identified |
| Locke/Hunter
S3E22 But he was acting on his own when he tried to
kill Naomi
|
Danielle/Mom
S3E22 Finally with Alex |
| Hurley/Hero
S3E22 Saves the LOSTies on the beach
|
Desmond/Lifeguard
S3E22 Trying to save Charlie |
| Sawyer/Man
of Faith
S3E22
Preparing to bury the dead
|
Aaron/Psychic
S3E22 Cries when Charlie dies |
Charlie/Hero,
Man of Faith and Dead
S3E22 Died crossing himself |
|
You
can cross reference the situations listed in the chart above
by checking the Another
Life section of this website or by reading the S3E22 transcript
2)
Cooperation - S3E22, all of the LOSTies are working together
for the 'Greater Good' to save the pregnant women from the
Others, to get to the Radio Tower to shut down Danielle's
message, to get Charlie to shut down the Looking Glass transmission
to use the satellite phone, to call Naomi's boat and to fight
the Others. Locke was the only other LOSTie besides Charlie
and Desmond who was not with the group. And while Locke believed
that he was acting for the 'Greater Good' by attempting to
kill Naomi because he believed"She's not who she says
she is". And so it was still not a situation of them
all cooperating together.
3)
The Leader - Both Danielle and Jack were in the role of Leader
in S3E22. Danielle is the Leader
when she leads the group to the Radio Tower and then Jack
takes over as the Leader once they get there. So there was
a clearly defined leader.
4)
The Fail Safe - Nothing was definitively identified as the
Fail Safe in S3E22. However, a strong case could be made for
it being when Charlie entered the number into the keypad,
shutting down the Looking Glass transmission and/or when he
presses the Red Flashing Button to receive the incoming transmission
from Penny.
5)
The Hurley Bird - In S3E19, there is a loud bird call heard
just as Locke and Sawyer reached the Black Rock, its sound
was very different than any other birds that have been heard
in this Level. The other possibility is the birds that are
heard as the LOSTies reach the Radio Tower in S3E22.
6)
The White Rabbit - There were several White Rabbits, including
Karl hiding in the tress in S3E21 and most notably Charlie
when he swam down to the Looking
Glass and entered it through the Moon
Pool. However, in S3E22 Desmond also swam
down and entered through the moon pool. He then hides
in the storage
locker. If I had to pick one, I would say it was Desmond
hiding in the storage locker. Just as a point of interest,
the name Pascal (Pascal
Flats) means Easter child and it could be a hint about
the large number of white rabbits that were seen in Level
4. See Roles
But,
the Level change from Level 4 to Level 5 did not occur in
Season 3 and was delayed until Season 4.Why, because the correct
number of days had not been completed. It has been interesting
to note that in we are now seeing that each episode actually
covers less island time than previous episodes covered. Days
93 and 94 have taken up several episodes (S3E22- S4E3).
Level
4/Season 4
At the end of Season 3, I was convinced that we were going
to see the Level change from 4 to 5 and that it would occur
a few days early and I couldn't explain why it would occur
when we would be at least two or three days short of when
it was expected. However at the start of Season 4, although
most of the requirements had been met for the level change,
things started to change rapidly.
The
biggest change is the fact that our LOSTies have now separated
into two groups:s: the LOSTies that are with Jack (Kate, Sayid,
Desmond, Sun & Jin, Ben & Rose)and the LOSTies who
went with Locke to the Barracks (Hurley, Sawyer, Claire &
Aaron, Danielle & Ben, Alex & Karl).
WE
had to wait for those last few island days to occur for the
change to Level 5 to happen.
As
of S4E2, there are several groups operating on the island:
Locke's group, Jack's group which consists of the bulk of
the LOSTies headed for the beach, the Others who are supposed
to be headed toward the Temple, and Naomi's team on the island
which now appears to be led by Miles.
As
of S4E4, we are on Day 95 on LOSTies beach and on the morning
of Day 96 in New Otherton (Locke tells Miles to "Enjoy
your breakfast" when he places the grenade in his mouth).
S4E5
bring us to Day 96 on the island and curiously to what appears
to be Day
94 (December 24, 2004) on the BOATies' ship, the Kahana,
and also Day 94 back in England. Desmond believes he calls
Penny
on Christmas Eve, just as he had promised to do 8 years
earlier. So here we are again folks, trying to reconcile the
same two day difference in time that has plagued us as fans
since Season 2.
But
here's a question, we know it's Day 96 on the island, but
is it really Day 94 on the ship? Or did Sayid and Desmond
only experience a shift backwards in time that would be roughly
equivalent to a few hours. We know they left at dusk and arrived
at mid-day. But in the middle of which day did they arrive?
We
know it took the payload 31 minutes to reach the island from
the ship, Assuming you calculated using the speed of the payload
vs. the speed of the helicopter, did Desmond and Sayid actually
only travel back in time a few hours? Or might it have taken
them back just a day and it is now actually Christmas Day,
Day 95?
What
about the comment by Minkowski that the sabotage to the equipment
occurred two days ago? Does that simply mean that
no one has marked the calendar since the day of the sabotage
and that it may actually be Day 96 on the ship as well? Also,
there is no confirmation that it is actually Christmas Eve
for her when Penny answers the phone. All we know is that
she is standing in front of a Christmas tree.
So
yes, we have a time controversy on the ship, but there is
one thing for sure, it is Day 96 on the island and the change
to Level 5 is due to occur between Day 96 and Day 97.
We
have also already had what may be the equivalent of a Hurley
Bird (see Monster S4E4
) and a White Rabbit (see
Games S4E4) for a Level change to occur. During the next
few episodes we should finally get the change from Level 4
to 5.
Which
brings us to the morning of Day 97 (S4E6). The day of the
Level change from 4 to 5.
To
proceed to Level 5, the Losties needed to work together once
again and meet several requirements:
1) All of the LOSTies have to be in 'good' roles
2) They have to be cooperating with each other for "The
Greater Good"
3) Someone has to take on the role of the Leader
4) The Fail Safe has to be identified and utilized
5) The Hurley Bird needs to appear
6) The White Rabbit needs to go down the hole
7)We
saw the plane crash again at the beginning of Level 5
And
here's how the requirements were met as of S4E6
1)
Good Roles - All of the LOSTies were in 'good roles'
|
Jack/Doctor
S4E6 Treating Kate
|
Juliet/Leader
S4E6 Attempting to stop the release of the gas |
| Kate/Tracker
S4E6 Tracking Juliet, Charlotte and Daniel |
Jin/Tracker
S4E6 With Sun and Vincent looking for Daniel and Charlotte |
| Sun/Tracker
S4E6 With Jin and Vincent looking for Daniel and Charlotte |
Vincent/Tracker
S4E6 With Sun and Jin looking for Daniel and Charlotte |
| Locke/Man
of Faith
S4E6 Believing what Ben tells him
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Claire/Mom
S4E6 Last seen holding Aaron |
| Sayid/Prisoner
S4E5 On the Kahana
|
Desmond/Prisoner
S4E5 on the Kahana |
| Sawyer/Role
unidentified
Playing horseshoes with Hurley
|
Hurley/Role
unidentified
Playing horseshoes with Sawyer. But we do know that he
said he was lucky, so he was definitely not in the 'bad'
role of Millionaire |
You
can cross reference the situations listed in the chart above
by checking the Another
Life section of this website or by reading the S4E5 and
S4E6 transcripts
2) Cooperation - Although they are separated into two groups,
all of the LOSTies within each group are working together
within their groups for "The Greater Good"
3)
The Leader - Juliet steps up and decides to move ahead to
the Tempest without Jack and Kate
4)
The Fail Safe - Daniel working on the computer to render the
gas inert and stop it from being released
5)
The Hurley Bird - I think we had the equivalent of a Hurley
Bird when Kate stops and turns to listen to a bird as she
delivered food to Miles (see
Monster S4E4 )
6)
The White Rabbit went down the hole- There were a few White
Rabbits in the last few episodes of this Level, including
the rabbit on the shelf in Aaron's bedroom (see Games
S4E4). I had stated in update on the What's
New? page dated 2/29/08 that I thought it might be the
White Rabbit for this Level change since we were so rapidly
approaching a change at that time. Then there was the rabbit
that Locke
killed and served to Ben in S4E6. But I believe the actual
White Rabbit for this Level change was Juliet
entering the Tempest in S4E6.
7)
We saw the plane crash again in S4E6 (#1,
#2)
Level 4 Instructions
In S3E19, we see that Ben/Fake Henry
has a pile of green
file folders on his desk, Richard Alpert gives
Locke a file on Sawyer, and we learn from Locke that the Others
have files on all of the LOSTies.
In
S3E20, we see the new Dharma arrivals watching an orientation
video in the processing
center. They are given instructions about the purpose
and operation of the sonic fence.
Additional
parts of the Level 4 instructions were the maps included the
binder
that Sayid took from the Flame Hatch. He used the maps in
the binder to locate the Perimeter Fence, the Barracks in
New Otherton and the Looking Glass. It will be interesting
to see just what else might be in that binder and what else
Sayid took with him from the Flame.
S3E22
Walt appears and tells Locke that he has work to do. In S4E2
Locke tells his group that Walt told him what he was "supposed
to do"
In S4E2 Matthew Abbadon has a pile
of files on his desk that are about Miles
Straume, Charlotte
Lewis, Daniel
Faraday and Frank
Lapidus
S4E4
has Ben saying to Locke "You keep hitting dead ends.
You couldn't find the cabin, you can't make contact with Jacob,
you're so desperate to figure out what to do next, you're
even asking me for help". He also tells Locke "You're
more LOST than you ever were." and then later on says
to Locke "Excellent John, you're evolving".
Regarding
that last comment about "evolving", it's interesting
to note that in S3E3, as Charlie was standing guard for Locke
at the Sweat Lodge, he said to Locke "I'm gonna stand
out here in case you devolve into a monkey". Perhaps
evolving and devolving is the name that the game gives to
the process of the Role changes.
S4E5
gave us even more instructions as we learned from Daniel that
"The future cannot be changed". This was also discussed
by Lindelof and Cuse during the February
28, 2008 podcast.
S4E5
also provided the instructions on how to locate the BOATies
on the Kahana by following a specific heading, and how to
become "unstuck" in time by using a constant.
S4E6
Ben shows Locke a file
on Widmore and also shows Locke a video tape of Widmore
and tells Locke "This is the man whose boat is parked
offshore. This is the man that's been trying to find the island".
and in S4E6 we see juliet reading Jack's file.
Level
5/Seasons 4 & 5
Level
5 Roles
This Level will include 8 days (97 - 104) and begins
with Jack, Juliet, Charlotte and Kate near the Tempest Hatch
after Juliet and Charlotte have reset while leaving the Tempest.
Desmond and Sayid are on the Kahana.
As
I predicted, S4E6 showed the end of Level 4 and the beginning
of Level 5 on the morning of Day 97. The
biggest difference with this Level change is that we actually
saw the words MASTER CAUTION RESET appear both on the Tempest
system map and on the
computer that Daniel was working on. In fact, we also
see Juliet and Charlotte being
reset under the blinking lights as they leave the Tempest.
When they arrive outside, they have been reset to the roles
they were in when they first arrived on the island, Charlotte
as a Lifeguard and Juliet as a prisoner.
Sun
indicates that it is the night of Day 97 when she says to
Jin, "Sayid and Desmond left three
days ago". and Sayid says the same thing to Desmond
on the Kahana. Which brings up the question again
of what day is it really on the Kahana?
We
have several characters whose reset roles can be identified
at the beginning of Level 5
| Jack/Doctor
S4E6 Jack looks at Juliet's wound |
Desmond/Prisoner
S4E7 Being held on the Kahana |
| Kate/Prisoner
S4E7 Kate discusses being overcome by Charlotte and
Daniel |
Juliet/Prisoner
S4E6 Juliet as Kate's prisoner |
Sayid/Terrorist
S4E7 Sayid is given a weapon (can opener) by Frank |
Daniel/Lifeguard
S4E6 Charlotte says that they saved their lives |
| Sun/Star
Crossed Lover
S4E7 Sun and Jin kiss |
Charlotte/Lifeguard
S4E6 Charlotte says that they saved their lives |
Level
5 Objectives
Level 5 is 8 days long. In S3E22, we were told about
at least one new location for Level 5, the Temple, where the
Others are headed. Curiously, the closer the LOSTies got to
the Radio Tower, the more abundant the black rocks became.
Perhaps the increasing occurrence of the black rocks in that
area is an indication that the LOSTies are now in the vicinity
of the volcano that has been hinted at.
As
for other new locations, we had Rose & bernard's new house
and camp, the place where Jughead is stored, the statue
and the inside of the base of the statue where Jacob lives.
As
for their objectives, back in S4E2 (Level 3) we found out
the BOATies objectives when Daniel tells Jack "Rescuing
you and your people, can't really say it's our prime objective"
and when Miles tells Jack & Kate that they are there for
Ben.
I
posed the question at that time as to whether or not, the
BOATies would force the LOSTies to cooperate with the Others
to survive. That's just what we saw on Day 98 when Locke calls
the group together for his meeting to discuss why the BOATies
are there. And Ben sends Alex and Karl away with Rousseau.
S4E9
takes place on Day 99, the day after Rousseau takes Alex and
Karl to the temple. Ben clearly tells Sawyer that he sent
them "away yesterday". Day 99 is also the day that
Keamy kills Alex, and Ben somehow unleashes the smoke monster.
S4E10
occurs on Day 100 as Jack is operated on and Sawyer makes
his way with Claire, Aaron and Miles back to the beach. Day
101 begins when Sawyer wakes up to find that Claire has walked
off into the jungle.
In
S4E10 we learn from Jack that some of the LOSTies chose to
stay on the island and are apparently alive after the Oceanic
6 get back. Jack tells Kate about Sawyer "He made his
choice. He chose to stay"
In
S4E10 There are birds chirping that serve to cover over the
sounds that Aaron makes to help hide him from Keamy and his
men. This could indicate that the monster is working to protect
Aaron or could be the Hurley bird to indicate that the end
of level 5 is approaching (Day 104)
S4E11
takes place on Day 100 for Hurley, Locke and Ben who have
"...been walking all day" according to Hurley. When
Locke finally enters Jacob's cabin, it is the night of Day
101. We also see the LOSTies on the beach on the night of
Day 101 as the helicopter returns with Keamy and his men.
S4E11
also has Ben telling Locke "The island wanted me to get
sick. The island wanted you to get better. My time is over".
This may mean that Ben is giving up his Leadership role to
Locke.
S4E11
gave us a curious
flash that occurred as Jack ran for the satellite phone
that was dropped by Frank Lapidus. it was similar to the types
of flashes that occurred in Level 4 in S3E17 through S3E22
as detailed above in The Reset section. Many additional flashes
were also seen in S4E13. Again see the discussion of flashes
above, in the Reset section. This may be a sign that
Level 5 is coming to an end. And we may have had
the Hurley bird as there were birds chirping in S4E10 that
served to cover over the sounds that Aaron makes and to help
hide him from Keamy and his men. This could indicate that
the monster is working to protect Aaron or it could be the
Hurley Bird for Level 5.
S4E12
gave us some more more curious flashes, besides all the flashes
of the cameras at the Press Conference. There is a curious
red
flash seen on the side of a tree as Jack and Kate walk
through the jungle and there is a red
ring seen around the sun in one scene. These flashes all
occur before the Level change so they are not related to characters
retting, and the red
one on the tree may be the only one that is important
since it may signal that Level 5 is coming to an end.
And
although Ben used a mirror to signal the Others on the mountaintop
with mirror flashes, I do not believe that they have any thing
to do with the Level changing.
S4E12
starts with Jack and Kate preparing to leave the beach on
the night of Day 101 and the majority of the episode takes
place during the daylight hours of Day 102.
While
Karen Decker tells the crowd at the Press Conference that
a raft was dislodged from a sunken fishing boat on Day 103
because of a typhoon, and that the LOSTies left the island
of Membata on Day 108 and used the raft to get to the village
of Manukannga on the island of Sumba on Day 108, we find out
in S4E13 that this is not true. The LOSTies actually
left the island on Day 102 and spent a
week on Penny's yacht before arriving on the island of
Sumba on Day 108.
S4E12
also gave us a new Dharma Station, the Orchid.
The Orchid had been revealed in the video released at the
2007 Comic Con, but has never been shown before this episode.
Here's the video
shown at Comic Con, if you haven't had a chance to see it
yet. The video was seen in part during S4E13 as Locke attempts
to watch it.
Okay,
the big question here is did we see the end of Level 5 in
S4E13 when Ben
moved the island? I think that the definitive answer is
no, despite the fact that almost all of the requirements appeared
to be met. One very important requirement was not met, the
number of days in Level 5. The Oceanic 6 left the island on
Day 102, two days before the Level was due to change from
Level 5 to Level 6. However, the days spent between leaving
the island and returning were actually days in a TIME OUT
period.
I
think that this is a very similar situation to what we saw
at the end of Season 3 when it appeared that a Level change
was going to occur a few days early. But the more I think
about it, I am convinced that it did not change yet. And my
primary reason for thinking it hasn't changed yet is because
of the fact that it was two days short of when it is supposed
to happen. I know those same two nagging days that always
seem to be in question when it comes to LOST. But there are
a few more reasons as well. We did not see the plane crash,
instead we saw the helicopter crash. And, we also did not
see all of the characters reset.
I have gone back and watched Season 4 over and over again.
I have painstakingly counted the days. I have even thought
of Daniel saying to Jack and Juliet in S4E5 that 'Your perception
of time may not be entirely accurate".
As
Season 5 progressed it became apparent that the LOSTies still
on the island had entered into TIME OUT period during the
days spent between when the Oceanic 6 left the island and
their actual return. See TIME OUT below. Once the Oceanic
6 returned and spent the additional two days required, the
Level is ready to change from 5 to 6 when all of the requirements
are met.
Here's
how the requirements were met:
To
proceed to Level 6, the Losties needed to work together once
again and meet several requirements:
1) All of the LOSTies have to be in 'good' roles
2) They have to be cooperating with each other for "The
Greater Good"
3) Someone has to take on the role of the Leader
4) The Fail Safe has to be identified and utilized
5) The Hurley Bird needs to appear
6) The White Rabbit needs to go down the hole
7)We need to see the plane crash at the beginning of the new
Level
And here's how the requirements were met as of S5E16
& S5E17
1)
Good Roles - All of the LOSTies were in 'good roles'
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Jack/Leader
S5E17 Leading g the effort to use Jughead's core
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Juliet/Sacrifice
S56E17 Willing to die to complete the task of setting
off Jughead's core |
| Kate/Lifeguard
S5E17 Trying to stop Juliet from falling down the well |
Sayid/Patient
S5E17 Hurt and actually in a neutral role where his
actions have no consequences |
| Sawyer/Lifeguard
S5E17 Trying to stop Juliet from falling down the well
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Hurley/Nursemaid
S5E17 Watching over Sayid |
| Miles/Nursemaid
S5E17 Watching over Sayid
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Jin/Nursemaid
S5E17 Watching over Sayid |
| Locke/Dead
S5E17 Dead is Dead |
Lapidus/Prisoner
S5E17 Ilana's prisoner |
| Sun/Prisoner
S5E17 Taken by the Smoke Monster/Esau to the statue
thinking that he was acting on the LOSTies behalf
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You can cross reference the
situations listed in the chart above by checking the Another
Life section of this website or by reading the transcripts
2) Cooperation - Although they are separated into several
groups all of the LOSTies are working together for "The
Greater Good". All of the LOSTies on the main island
are working together to use Jughead, and Lapidus and Sun whether
they like it or not are currently with the Others
3)
The Leader - Jack leads the on-island LOSTies on the quest
to set off Jughead
4)
The Fail Safe - Jughead's core
5)
The Hurley Bird - The incredibly loud birds chirping as they
make their final modifications to Jughead's core
6)
The White Rabbit - Juliet went down the hole
7)
We did not see the plane crash, however we did see the outside
of the plane (Flight 815)
Level 5 Instructions
In S4E7, Bernard offers Jin the following
advice "You make bad choices, bad things happen
to you" and "You make good choices and then good
things..." Giving the first indication in the
game that bad things will happen to the various characters
if they make bad choices. This is part of the discussion where
Bernard explains why he and Rose chose to stay with Jack rather
than going with Locke "Because it was the right thing
to do, Locke is a murderer". Juliet also warns Sun about
leaving Jack's group to join Locke saying "This is a
bad idea". The implication is that anything bad
that now happens to Locke is probably a result of the game
punishing him due to his own bad choices.
In
S4E7, Kate draws a map to New Otherton for Sun and Jin, although,
Sun finally decides not to join Locke as a result of her conversation
with Juliet.
Gault
says in S4E8 that "The rules of desertion still apply
to everyone", this goes along with what we have seen
before, that leaving is not an option in the game.
In
S4E8, when asks by Sayid why he is on the Kahana, Michael
replies "I'm here to die". He also attempts suicide
four times in S4E8, by smashing
his car into a cargo container, by trying to shoot himself
in
the alley, by trying to shoot himself in
his room and by activating
the bomb. In all cases, he fails. Tom/Mr. Friendly tells
him in the alley that "The island won't let you"
and the note that pops up from the bomb says "Not
Yet". Both Tom/Mr. Friendly and Ben essentially tell
Michael the same thing, that he has work to do before he can
die. This is obviously a case of course correction,
Michael will not be able to commit suicide before
he completes whatever the task is that he needs to do.
When
Michael asks Tom/Mr. Friendly about the ability of the Others
to leave the island in S4E8, "So, you people can just
come and go?", Tom/Mr. Friendly replies "Some of
us". It implies that only some of the Others can leave
the island, while some of them cannot.
In
S4E8 Tom/Mr. Friendly gives Michael a black
file that contains pictures of pictures of the cemetery
in Thailand where Widmore dug up the 324 bodies, a copy of
the invoice
for the used plane and he tells Michael "That's not
your plane. It's a phony. A man named Widmore put it down
there and he staged the whole wreck".
In
S4E9 when Locke asks Ben about the smoke monster again, Ben
tells him "You can ask Jacob". Then, when Sawyer
asks "Who the hell's Jacob?", Ben answers that "He's
the man who's gonna tell us what to do next". Indicating
that Jacob is going to provide them with some "Further
Instructions".
Alex's
Death and The Rules
In
S4E9, we were given what appear to be some new rules, those
that concern Ben and Widmore killing each other's family members.
In the past, when we have been given new rules, they have
been pretty cut and dried as to their meaning. However, the
whole scenario of Alex's death is curious and somewhat contradictory.
Keamy
was holding Alex as his Prisoner and threatening to shoot
"your daughter" if Ben did not come out of the house.
Next, Ben did a curious thing, he denied that Alex was his
daughter and admitted to kidnapping her as a baby from Danielle.
But when Keamy killed Alex, Ben
was stunned by it and said that "He changed the rules."
A little later in the episode, when Ben entered Widmore's
bedroom, we learned that Ben was referring to Widmore when
he said "He changed the rules".
The
question is, if Ben thought that neither he, nor Widmore,
could kill each other's family members then why didn't he
just continue to insist that Alex was his daughter, instead
of denying her as his daughter? If it is true that they can't
kill each other's family, then insisting she was his daughter
should have kept her safe, but instead, he did the opposite
and denied her. apparently leaving Keamy free to kill her.
Ben
and Widmore then have an interesting exchange in Widmore's
bedroom regarding Alex's death. Ben says "I'm here because
you murdered my daughter" and Widmore comes back with
"...we both know very well I didn't murder her at all,
you did". Ben responds 'No, that's not true" and
Widmore says "Yes, it is". Why does Widmore blame
Ben for Alex's death?
is
there actually a rule against killing each other's family
members? If there is no such rule, why did Ben think there
was? And why did Ben deny Alex was his daughter and admit
to being a kidnapper. And why would Widmore accuse Ben of
being responsible for her death?
I'm
not sure but here are a few thoughts I have had about all
of this.
It
may be possible that Ben has become subject to the rule we
learned from Bernard in S4E7, that is, if "You
make bad choices, bad things happen to you".
Perhaps killing his own father somehow left him open to allowing
other members of his family to be killed. I'm not sure if
that is the case here.
Further,
if Widmore could actually change the rules, then why couldn't
he change the rule that he and Ben can't kill each other?
Another
thought has to do with the concept of their Roles at the time
of Alex's death. Ben was in the role of Daddy, Alex was in
the role of a Prisoner. Ben stops and appears to be thinking
over his options for a second and then suddenly switches to
the role of Kidnapper and bang- Keamy kills Alex. It was interesting
to note that this was the very first time that Ben admitted
to Kidnapping Alex from Danielle.
Did
Ben's sudden switch from Daddy to Kidnapper play a part in
Alex's death? As the Kidnapper, he freely admits that Alex
is not his daughter, and therefore Keamy would be allowed
to kill her. Then how would Widmore's comments fit into this?
Does it imply that by Ben allowing himself to switch from
Daddy to Kidnapper that Ben caused her death? What caused
the switch in Ben's roles? If the 'bad' player caused it,
what was the reasoning? Could it have simply been done deliberately
by the 'bad' player to escalate the war? Could Ben have somehow
stopped the switch from Daddy to Kidnapper or was it out of
his control? There have been memory lapses associated with
role changes in the past. Did Ben have some sort of lapse
in his memory of the rules as a consequence of switching roles?
My
answer is, I don't know. But I'm sure we'll be learning more
as we go along. Especially since in S5E16 we learn that Jacob's
nemesis was able to find a loophole, he found
a way to trick Ben into killing Jacob. So perhaps this explains
why Widmore couldn't kill Alex but Keamy could do it for him.
S4E10
brings us more examples of files on people. Jack is shown
carrying Ms.
Berenberg's file, Dr.
Erika Stevenson gives Jack a file on Ryan Laker and Jack
is later seen examining
this file when he is looking at Ryan's xrays.
S4E10
also gave us the fact that even though the smoke monster attacked
Keamy's men, they all
seem to have survived. When asked about this in an interview
on Jimmy Kimmel after the show aired, Carlton Cuse stated
that "The monster has different rules for different
people". Cuse also answers Rose's question on
why Jack got sick on an island that actually cures people
and Cuse answered that "Jack gets sick because he is
not in communion with the island". This is the first
indication we have a possible answer for why Ben got his cancerous
tumor and ties in with Richard Alpert's statement to Locke
in S3E19 that the Others are concerned that Ben is too obsessed
with the pregnancy issues.
S4E11
Locke tells Hurley "Hopefully, the man who lives in the
cabin can tell us what to do about the people who are trying
to kill us" and when Locke finds Horace Goodspeed, Horace
provides instructions when he tells Locke "You gotta
find
me John, you gotta find me... and when you do, you'll
find him" when Locke asks "Who?", Horace replies
"Jacob, he's been waiting for you for a real long time".
When Locke does find Horace's body in the pit, he finds a
map in Horace's pocket that leads him to Jacob's cabin.
S4E11
Captain Gault tells Keamy that it is not protocol for him
to open the safe by himself and then Keamy extracts what he
refers to as the "secondary
protocol" which has the same Dharma
logo on it that was seen on Ben's jacket in S4E9. Keamy
tells Gault that "It says where Linus is going".
In
S4E11 Locke tells Abbadon "You should read my file and
he replies "I did read your file"
Finally,
in S4E11 Locke asks Christian Shephard, "How do I save
the island?" and he later tells Ben "He wants me
to move the island"
In
S4E12 Ben gives Locke specific instructions on what to do
"You're going to go into the greenhouse through that
hole there. Once inside you're gonna turn left, go about 20
paces until you see a patch of Antheriums on your left. They're
in an alcove against the north wall. Face that wall, reach
down with your left hand, you'll find a switch that activates
the elevator. The elevator takes you down to the actual Orchid
station." There is one other type of instructions that
we see, but that is not mentioned. As Desmond leaves the pilot
of the Kahana to find out what is causing the RF interference
with the fathometer, he passes a set
of life jacket instructions that are on the wall near
the door.
S4E13
Locke is seen looking at a book of instructions
to help him find his way into the Orchid. Once in the Orchid,
there are a series of Dharma
manuals located on the shelves. Dr.
Halliwax provides instructions via the Orchid Orientation
Video.
In
S4E13 Ben provides us with what appears to be a very important
rule in the game when Ben tells Locke "Whoever
moves the island can never come back"
In
S5E16 we learn that there are indeed rules about there only
being one 'Leader' of the Others at a time, that the Leader
of the Others answers to Jacob, that Jacob is responsible
for Richard not ageing, that Jacob's nemesis needed a loophole
to kill Jacob, that Faraday left explicit instructions on
how to remove Jughead's core and use it, that the Others attempt
to identify candidates- presumably for the role of' Leader'

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do not believe that we saw a Level change in S4E13.
I
think S413 may have been a well crafted episode that was designed
to confuse the audience into thinking the Level had changed.
My primary reason for saying this is that although all of
the requirements seem to have been met for a level change,
it appears that one big requirement was not met, the Level
appears to have been two days short of its required 8 days.
As of S5E7 we still have not seen the crash of the Oceanic
815, or the reset of the characters that accompanies a Level
change. Most notably, Vincent should be missing as the White
Rabbit at the beginning of a new Level, and he was noticeably
present in S5E1 and S5E2.
I
believe we are in some sort of a "Time Out" period,
and will remain in it until all of the Oceanic 6 come back
to the island, and then they will have to spend another
2 days on the island (Day 103-104) before the Level changes
to Level 6.
Why
have a "Time Out"?
I
think it represents a penalty because the Oceanic 6 left before
the 108 days were up. It
appears as if we have already been given the primary
objectives for the "Time Out" period. The Oceanic
6 have to get back to the island to complete the 2 days remaining
in Level 5 before the change can occur to Level 6. and then
they will still have to complete the total number of 108 days
required on the island.
During
the "Time Out", the remaining LOSTies will have
their own objectives. That is, to stay alive, to interact
with the Dharma Initiative and for Sun and Lapidus, it will
mean finding a way to reunite with the LOSTies that are in
1977.
The
beginning episodes of the "Time Out" introduced
us to new locations which have included the Army Camp, the
Outer Wall of the Temple, and the Well. As Season 5 has progressed
we have also been given an inside view of the Dharma Barracks.
The
"Time Out" also gave us a new obstacle
for the LOSTies to overcome, the on-island flashes. As they
move around in time they were faced with many new challenges.
For instance, Sawyer, Juliet, etc. flashing back in time,
but the after the Swan Hatch imploded, which meant they had
to stay there and wait for another flash to bring them to
a time when the Swan Hatch was still intact. Or Locke being
shot by Ethan near the plane.
One
can't help but think that Locke being shot
by Ethan as he climbs
the cliff is an answer to the question as to why Locke
had problems with his legs near the drug plane back in S1E20
when Boone climbs the cliff because Locke's legs are suddenly
not working for him, or in S2E21 when Eko climbs the cliff
because Locke's legs are suddenly not working for him.
We have now learned from Daniel that "Whatever
happened, happened" and "If it
didn't happen, it can't happen". Therefore,
the fact that his legs were not working in S1E20 and S2E2
now makes perfect sense, Locke was suffering from the injury
caused when he was shot by Ethan in S5E1.
These
new on-island flashes are providing all sorts of answers as
our LOSTies go back to some of the locations we have visited
before and get to see and experience some things that will
provide some answers. Who knows, maybe this is how we'll finally
learn who the two dead skeletons in the cave belong to?
The
on-island time travel flashes continued into S5E4 where the
LOSTies traveled back to the Swan Hatch on the night that
Aaron was born which was also the same night that Boone died.
They also traveled back in time to find the recent wreckage
from Danielle's ship the Besixdouze. Jin was rescued from
the ocean by Danielle and her team in 1988. Now that we know
that Jin is traveling in time along with Sawyer, Locke, Juliet,
Daniel, Charlotte and Miles, I assume that Jin will join back
up with the LOSTies.
Sawyer,
Locke, Juliet, Daniel, Charlotte and Miles also came across
the deserted beach camp. However, no indication was given
as to when it had actually occurred. My money is on the idea
of this being sometime in the future and that the people in
the second
outrigger canoe may actually be some of the Oceanic 6
after they have returned to the island.
In
S5E5 we get our first look at the outer walls of the Temple
and the Well
near the Orchid,
both are new locations.
The
biggest question I got in emails after S5E5 was whether or
not Locke climbing down the well in the Role of the "White
Rabbit" and as "Sacrifice" when turning the
wheel (using a Fail Safe) constituted a change from Level
5 to Level 6.
I
stated above that we were two days short of the required 8
days for the completion of Level 5. (Since many fans have
asked me if I could include some information about what has
happened during the various on-island time travel flashes,
I have created a pdf document of the various flashes that
you can read
here if you are interested.)
We
are also faced with the question regarding the fact that the
obituary for Jeremy Bentham stated that he (Locke) had a teenaged
son when he died. There is a translation of the obituary
of the man in the coffin that is posted all over the internet.
It claims that the obituary says "The body of Jeremy
Bentham of New York was found shortly after 4 am in the 4300
block of Grand Avenue. Ted Worden, a doorman at the Tower
Lofts complex, heard loud noises coming from the victim's
loft. Concerned for tenants' safety, he entered the loft and
found the body hanging from a beam in the living room. according
to Jamie Ortiz, a police spokesperson, the incident was deemed
a suicide after medical tests. Bentham is survived by one
teenaged son. Memorial services will be held at the Hoffs-Drawlar
Funeral Home tomorrow evening."
In
S5E7 Locke wants Abbadon to find Helen, At first Abbadon claims
he can't find Helen, then he shows Locke her grave. Is this
just a con? Is Helen actually alive and did she have
a son that Locke doesn't know about?
S5E6
showed us the flash that occurred on Flight 316, but
in S4E7 we saw that Frank
Lapidus was able to land Fight 316, just as he was able
to land the helicopter on the island.
I
think the fact that Jack woke up in the jungle flat on his
back at the beginning of S5E6, just as he did in S1E1, was
just another deliberate attempt to mislead fans into thinking
that a level change has occurred. In S5E8 we once again had a number of the criteria
needed for a Level change to occur appear in this episode.
Especially the scene with Jerry starting the tape player in
the security center at the Barracks that was so similar to
the beginning of Level 2 with Desmond putting on the record,
or the start of Level 3 with Juliet putting in the CD. Heck,
we even had a Hurley
Bird calling out as Amy sits by dead Paul.
For
now, I am holding on to my opinion that once again, although
most of the criteria seem to have been met, the number of
days spent on-island by the LOSTies has not been the required
number of days yet.
And
based on Mrs. Hawking telling Desmond that "the island
isn't done with you, yet", and what Abaddon said in S4E7
about Walt having to return, it looks like at least
Desmond and Walt, and possibly Aaron and Ji Yeon may all have
to come back.
In
S5E8 we learned that Sawyer, Juliet, Miles, Daniel and Jin
flashed to 1974 when Locke turned the wheel and that they
have spent three years in New Otherton and that it is now
1977 for them. And that Jack, Kate and Hurley wound up in
1977 after the flash on Flight 316.
In
S5E9, we finally learned that it is 30 years later on Alcatraz.
Which obviously opens up the door for some additional time
travel in order for Sun and Lapidus, as well as Ben to join
back up with the rest of the group.
So
just how will the LOSTies all join up together again?
As of S5E16 & S6E17 , it looks like the flash that occurred
as Juliet was banging the black rock against Jughead's core
will be the flash that will reunite our LOSTies in one time
period.
S5E12
provided gave us several interesting items that are normally
associated with a level change. We saw a stuffed
bird in the office in the Hydra that could very well have
been a Hurley Bird when it was alive, we had Ben and Locke
as White Rabbits when they climbed down into the hole
beneath the wall of the Temple and then Ben as a White
Rabbit when he fell through the floor into the Smoke Monster's
chamber. But, we didn't have the other criteria met since,
there was no Failsafe, not all LOSTies are acting for the
Greater Good, etc.
S5E13
provided us with a curious red
flash that was seen in the sky over New Otherton and with
lots of birds heard chirping in New Otherton as Roger is sitting
on the swing.
S5E14
also gave us birds chipping when Daniel was speaking with
Young Charlotte.
Time Out Instructions
During
the Time Out we have been given many instructions about the
fact that the past can not be changed.
S5E1 Dr. Pierre Chang says "There are rules,
rules that can't be broken" when Tony implies
that they could change the past by manipulating time,
Daniel also tells us in S5E1 that Ben's actions have dislodged
the island in time and that they are now traveling in time.
Daniel further indicates that they can move forward or backwards
in time when he says "We're either in the past or in
the future".
Daniel
also tells us about trying to change things in the past. "That's
not the way it works. You cannot change anything, you can't."
and "Time, it's like a street. We can move forward on
the street, we can move in reverse. But you can not ever create
a new street. If we try to do anything different, we will
fail. Every time.", "Whatever happened,
happened" and that "If it didn't
happen, it can't happen". Daniel's warning was reminiscent
of Mrs. Hawking's warning to Desmond in S3E8 about Course
Corrections
We
also have Richard telling Locke in S5E1 that in order to save
the island, that Locke will have to get the Oceanic 6 back
and when Locke questions how he will accomplish that, Richard
says"You're going to have to die"
Daniel
instructs Desmond that the LOSTies are in trouble and that
Daniel must find his mother at Oxford.
One
of the most telling things about the Roles
to date is when Daniel says to Desmond "The rules
don't apply to you. You're special. You're uniquely and miraculously
special."
I
have been battling with another major issue since the end
of Season 2 that I have not wanted to bring up until now.
It has to do with Walt and whether or not he is in danger
of dying. The following information has also been added below
in the Deaths section.
As
many of you know, I correctly predicted the deaths of a few
characters. Although no one seemed to care when I predicted
that Michael would die within a few day of getting back to
the island, or when I predicted that some of the rest of the
LOSTies would die. But, I have to say that I have never had
as much angry email as when I correctly predicted that Charlie
would die. Or that Locke would die.
And
so, I haven't wanted to say anything about Walt possibility
being in danger of dying, because I was concerned with the
possible backlash I would get. But there have always seemed
to be limited options for Walt to be able to survive.
It
has to do with the number of days he will have spent on the
island. The LOSTies have to spend a total of 108 days on the
island, and they are just few days short of the total (only
4 on-island days remain in the game. If Walt is required to
go back as well as the Oceanic 6, he doesn't possibly have
enough time to make up the days since he left the island.
He left on Day 65, that would mean he would need to have another
43 days on the island.
There
seems to be only three possible options for Walt:
1)
If Walt has to go back, and had gone back with the Oceanic
6. There would not have been not enough time left for him
to complete 108 days on the island before Season 6 ends. He
would have to die because there is no way for him to complete
this game requirement.
2)
The only way that seemed likely for Walt to complete the 108
on island days would be for him to get back to the island
at least 37 island days before the rest of the Oceanic 6 arrive.
That didn't happen before the end of Level 5.
3)
This is the best option for Walt's fans. He is not required
to go back because of some rule we are unaware of, or because
he has been designated in the role of special so many times.
Fortunately, S5E1 gave us this possible reason for Walt to
be able to live, when Daniel says to Desmond "The rules
don't apply to you. You're special. You're uniquely and miraculously
special." If Walt is also special, then perhaps the rules
don't apply to him either.
So
go ahead, email away. I've cleaned out my inbox so I can get
all the angry emails that will be yelling at me for even suggesting
he could die.
Further
instructions appeared in S5E1, where files and manuals can
be seen in the room that Sun is locked in at the airport.
Mrs.
Hawking is back in S5E2. We first saw her in S3E8
when she provides Desmond with specific instructions (see
above) . In S5E2 she tells Ben something very important. She
has been working on the computer, where we see the words "Event
Window Determined" across the screen. She warns Ben
that he has only 70 hours left to get The Oceanic 6 back to
the island. The implication is that Mrs. Hawking has identified
a way for Ben and the Oceanic 6 to get back to the island,
but there is a time limit. She uses several maps
and a Foucault
Pendulum to draw intersecting
lines for her calculations.
There
are several instruction
manuals seen near Mrs. Hawking which seem to have Dharma
logos on them, although the actual type of Dharma logo can't
be clearly seen; in S5E6 we finally learn that this is the
Lamp Post Station.
Other
instructions in S5E2 include Ana Lucia's instructions to Hurley
about getting "...new clothes, then you need to go to
a safe house and take Sayid to somebody you trust" and
delivers a warning to Hurley "...stay away from the cops
and do not get arrested". Sayid warns that Hurley should
do the opposite of anything that Ben tells him to do. When
Hurley comes face to face with Ben, he ignores Ana Lucia's
instructions about being arrested and follows Sayid's instructions
by turning himself into the police.
Instructions
in S5E3 include Daniel's instructions to Ellie to seal the
leak in the H-bomb with lead and to bury Jughead
in concrete. Curiously, below Jughead there is an octagonal
concrete pad that has what looks like a man hole cover,
indicating that something is already below Jughead.
There
were also some files in S5E3 scattered across the floor of
Daniel's old lab at Oxford.
S5E4
was just chock full of files and instructions. Everybody seemed
to be dealing with files of one type or another. Sun has a
file,
Dan Norton carries files
to his meeting with Kate and Dan also gives a file
to Ben, Dr. Evelyn Ariza has a file,
files are visible in the hospital,
Dan Norton gives Carole
Littleton a file and Tony
caries a file into Sayid's room that he refers to as orders.
By far the most interesting of these was Sun's file. Be sure
to see the game references for S5E4 on the Games
page to read about what was hidden inside of Sun's report.
By
far, my favorite instruction reference was Hurley telling
Jack "Dude, I'm totally cool. I'm in County lockup...
and tell Sayid I did exactly as he said. I'm totally safe,
Ben's not gonna get me now". I can't wait to see Hurley's
reaction when he sees the rest of the Oceanic 6 cooperating
with Ben.
in
S5E5 Charlotte supplies instructions when she tells Locke
to "Look for the well" and "You'll find it
at the well".
S5E5
shows us Christian Shepard giving Locke instructions about
what to do "On the other side of this column here, is
a wheel that's slipped off its axis, all you have to do is
give it a little push" and "There's a woman living
in Los Angeles. Now, once you get all of your friends together.
and then once you've persuaded them to join you, and it must
be all of them, everyone who left. This woman will tell you
exactly how to come back' and Locke asks "What if I can
only convince some of them to come back?"
S5E6
has Mrs. Hawking giving us lots of instructions on how the
Oceanic 6 can get back to the island. She explains the use
of the pendulum (1,
2,
3,
4,),
the equations on the blackboards (1,
2),
the unique pockets of electromagnetic energy located around
the world, the windows that are only open for brief periods
of time and a binder
that contains a list
of flights and their air routes that will fly directly
across the coordinates of the location of where the island
should be at a particular time (including Ajira Flight 31),
a stack
of manuals near her computer and more files in her office
(1,
2,
3).
Of
course, Mrs. Hawking's instructions that "If
you want to return, you need to recreate as best you can,
the circumstances that brought you there in the first place"
probably produced one of the best scenes ever to show just
how important props and the Roles
are on this show. All we have to do, is see the prop
they are carrying or see what they are doing and we know who
they are attempting to recreate. Locke is wearing Christian's
shoes to act as his proxy. Hurley carries a guitar case, like
Charlie did. Hurley comforts Caesar, just as Jack comforted
Rose. Jack is carrying a letter just as Sawyer did. They are
all transporting another body to the island, just as Jack
transported his father's body. Sayid is in handcuffs and has
a Marshall extraditing him, just as Kate did. Sun is touching
Jin's wedding ring, just as Rose touched Bernard's ring. Ben
gets up and moves around, just as Charlie and Bernard did.
Ben was late boarding, just as Hurley was. Caesar is of Middle
Eastern decent, just like Sayid and, based on his condolences
to Jack in the airport, may be a priest and therefore a proxy
for Mr. Eko. They are all now millionaires thanks to the generous
settlements they got from Oceanic Air, just as Hurley was
a millionaire. Lapidus is the proxy for Seth Norris the pilot.
Ben's injured arm represents Locke's injured legs. The stewardesses
are proxies for Cindy. There are kids on board that are proxies
for Emma and Zack.
Which
raises the final question- who is Claire's proxy? Is it the
blonde
who was in the airport that looked so much like Claire?
Or does it mean that one of the females on Flight 316 is pregnant?
Is it Kate? Or could Ilana, the Marshall who is a law enforcement
officer just like Ana Lucia, or one of the stewardesses, also
be pregnant? I have been trying to decide if Kate's sunglasses
were trying to recreate Nikki being a TV star, or if Shannon
had sunglasses on her head when she boarded the plane. And
although I think I remember someone wearing a sleep mask on
Flight 815 like Hurley is wearing, for the life of me, I can't
remember who it was. Let me know if you can think of anything
I've missed.
In
S5E6 we learned that Mrs. Hawking told Desmond that "the
island is not done with you yet". So it looks like he
has to come back.
S5E7
gives us Abbadon questioning Locke because Locke had said
that they all had to come back, including Walt. Which also
implies that Aaron and Ji Yeon will have to return as well.
S5E7
also provides lots of files and instructions via files found
in several locations. Widmore gives Locke a green
file with pictures of Sayid, there are file
cabinets and files in the Hydra
office and there are files
on the desk in the Tunisian hospital. And Caesar finds
copies of Danielle's maps (1,
2)
and a copy of the illustration
that was seen in Daniel's journal
S5E8
provided very little in the way of instructions. There were
some files visible in the Medical Station (1,
2)
and a nurse is seen looking at Amy's chart. Probably the most
important information we gained is that the truce between
the Others and Dharma is shaky at best, that the death of
the two Others required that Paul's body be taken by Richard
because ".. my people need some kind of justice"
and that the giant
statue is very old.
S5E9
provides lots of files and manuals. They are seen throughout
the Processing Center (1,
2)
in the Flame Station (1,
2)
and in the Security Center at the Barracks (1).
Sawyer provides Jack, Kate and Hurley with instructions on
how to get through the Processing Center procedures without
revealing that they are not Dharma recruits. Sawyer also has
an excellent method of letting Sayid in on what to say and
do when he questions him in the Flame Station.
S5E9
also has Ben giving Lapidus instructions on how to find the
dock on the main island, which ironically leads to Sun whacking
Ben in the head with the oar since she realizes that she doesn't
need Ban now that she and Frank know how to get there.
In S5E9, Sun and Lapidus are in 2007 and Christian tells them
"I'm sorry, but you have a bit of a journey ahead of
you" indicates that Christian is going to help Sun and
Lapidus to time travel to get to the rest of the LOSTies who
are in 1977.
S5E10
showed the
files and manuals in the Security Center again.
S5E10
also gave us the statement by Horace at the group
meeting that "We have a rule of law".
He seems to be implying that Sayid, who they believe to be
an Other, can be killed for simply crossing the sonic fence
and thereby breaking the truce. If that is the case, they
why didn't Richard demand that Amy be killed along with Paul
and the man killed by the Others? Or is this just the law
that New Otherton goes by for themselves? Radzinsky's threat
to call Ann Arbor would indicate that he knew that the people
in Ann Arbor would agree that killing Sayid would be their
choice as well.
While
the various red flashes have continued throughout the Time
Out into S5E10, this episode starting show us some curious
blue flashes. There were three distinct scenes when these
occurred. The first
is the blue flashes seen as Sayid is breaking into Ivan
Andropov's apartment, the second
blue flash is seen outside the hotel room window when Sayid
is removing Ilana's boot and the third
blue flash occurs when Sayid and Young Ben are traveling in
the jungle.
Next,
Locke's death. Did he provide Ben with information
that Ben didn't have previously about Mrs. Hawking knowing
how to help the Oceanic 6 get back to the island? It sure
seemed like Ben was shocked to hear about Mrs. Hawking, and
that once he had that information he felt he could kill Locke.
But is it possible that when Locke told Ben that Jin was alive,
that Ben realized that Locke would keep his promise to Jin
and never recruit Sun to return? Is that the real
reason why Ben killed Locke? To be sure that Ben
could get Sun to return? It actually seems more likely that
the real reason Ben killed Locke was to be sure he could get
Sun back to the island.
As
I also stated on my What's
New page, I think Locke is DEAD. I am sorry to disappoint fans who
think that he has miraculously risen from the dead, especially
after all the hints about resurrection in the last few episodes,
but I think he is dead. So how are the passengers from Flight
316 seeing Locke? Simple, I think that he is just like Christian,
a manifestation of the Monster.
And I think that is the reason why Ilana tells Caesar that
they found a man in a suit standing in the water. Just like
Christian was seen in S1E5. But I firmly believe that
both Christian and Locke are DEAD.
S5E11
gave us gave us some of the definitive rules of Time
Travel on LOST. Especially now that we have learned
that that we are dealing with one time line and not multiple
time lines as some fans had claimed. I loved both the "Back to the
Future" discussion and the discussion about time travel
between Miles and Hurley.
And I have decided to include
a clip of the lengthy discussion here because there are
some fans who may want to watch it again. As for the question
as to why the adult Ben won't remember being shot by Sayid
as a child, Richard Alpert answered that question when he
said that Young Ben would "forget this ever happened".
S5E12
gave us lots of information about rules. Charles Widmore is
accused of leaving the island frequently and having a daughter
with an outsider; and he is banished from the island by Ben
for these actions as they are against the rules. Ben tells Sun "Dead
is Dead" and "You don't get to come back
from that, not even here", so the island
can not undo death. And finally we learned that Ben actually
came back to the island to be judged by the Smoke Monster
for Alex's death.
What are the similarities
and differences between the scenes where Ben is being judged
by the Smoke Monster in S5E12 and when we saw Mr. Eko being
judged by the Smoke Monster (Yemi) in S3E5? Both
are in the role of 'Man of Faith' as they are being judged
and both see Flashes of their lives in the smoke. The big
difference is that Ben is repentant for his sins and is allowed
to live, while Mr. Eko was not repentant and was killed.
S5E13
gave us the same files
and manuals that we have seen before in the Security Center,
but in this episode, we see Horace not only looking through
a file, but he actually picks up a manual
and seems to refer to it.
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Level
6/Season 6
At
the end of Season 5 we had met all of the criteria for the
change from Level 5 to Level 6, except for seeing the scene
of the crash of Flight 815. Back in May, I had said that I
hoped to see the crash at the beginning of this season, but
we haven't seen it yet. As you know I have been adamantly saying that we haven't
had the change from Level 5 to Level 6 because we haven't
seen the crash of Flight 815. I've gone back and I've watched
every episode from this season again
Especially since we have had so many indicators this season
that the level has changed (new locations, a new group of
Others, resets to the roles required at the beginning of each
new level, etc etc.). And I've re-watched every single episode
from past seasons when a level has changed
I
kept looking at the episodes where levels changed and the
scenes of the plane crash; and instead of concentrating on
what was similar, I was concentrating on what was missing.
It finally dawned on me and I had a eureka moment
What
S6E1 had in common with these other episodes where Levels
changed was one simple fact, not that we saw the crash of
Flight 815, BUT THAT WE SAW THE OUTSIDE OF THE PLANE. So I
also went back and checked other episodes from past seasons
And
damned if wasn't true, we only see the outside of the plane
in episodes where Levels change. Oceanic Flight 815 doesn't
need to crash after all, we just need to see the outside of
the plane
So
here it is, I am officially stating that Level 6 began in
S6E1. Therefore I have gone back and removed the section
her that was named "What Happened to Level 6?";
and have revised the information that was previously in that
section and added it to the pertinent info in this Level 6
section
So,
I humbly apologize to all of you that I had been so stubborn
and insistent on a view of the crash of Flight 815. I was
wrong. It now appears as if simply seeing the outside of the
plane was enough
S6E6
ended at sundown on the night of Day 105. Yes, S6E1-S6E6 covered
only one day
S6E7
and S6E8 covered Day 106. In fact, S6E8 ended at dinner time
for the FLockettes on Day 106
S6E9
Begins on the beach at the end of Day 106 and ends on the
morning of Day 107
S6E10
Starts on the evening of Day 106 in the FLockettes camp and
ends the night of Day 107 in both the beach camp and in the
FLockettes camp
S5E11
takes place on the night of Day 107
As
of the end of S6E13, Day 108 has now been completed. Now all
that's left is for the LOSTies to accomplish all of their
objectives and requirements to end Level 6 and the game. I
have been referring to the alterverse as another game. But
perhaps it is just a special requirement for Level 6 to end.
Maybe this eighth requirement is that all of the LOSTies have
to be brought together in one place and remember the crash
of Flight 815 and being on the island. In that case, the role
that Desmond has been in of Advisor, is very important to
concluding Level 6 and winning the game
Level
6 Objectives:
As
with all new Levels, we get new locations. By S6E5 we have
seen several new locations: the Temple, the Lighthouse, the
cave with the names on the walls, Claire's camp, the stone
bench where Esau/MIB hangs out and the well
that FLocke throws Desmond
into. It also appears as if the primary objective for Level
6 will be to somehow defeat the "Someone bad"/FLocke
(that Jacob was indicating was going to the Temple) and whomever
he is able to recruit to his side
As
of S6E5 we are still on the day after Jacob was killed by
Ben, and Juliet set off Jughead
In S6E4 there were lots and lots of flashes. There are three white
flashes as the smoke monster is traveling. The first is as
it leaves New Otherton, the second is as it is moving through
the jungle and the third is just when it stops moving near
the machete. There are also several red flashes. There are
two in New Otherton as the smoke monster travels through.
The first appears in the lower
center of the screen and the second appears in the lower
right of the screen. There
are also two red flashes as the smoke monster travels through
the jungle toward Richard (1,
2).
And a final red
flash can be seen in the cave.
Perhaps
one of the most obvious red flashes is the one seen in S6E5
when Hurley and Jack reach the Lighthouse. It is well known
that only the first floor of the Lighthouse was built as a
prop, the rest of outside of the Lighthouse was computer generated.
But as the camera pans up to the top of the Lighthouse, there
is a red
flash. It had to be placed there deliberately.
So
what is happening? It appears that using the Failsafe Jughead
did not result in completely un-doing the entire string of
events leading up to the original crash of Flight 815, but
actually resulted in the creation of two alternate realities.
Before
she died, Juliet said "It didn't work" but when
Miles puts his ear to the ground, he says that he heard "It
worked". I have serious doubts that what Miles heard
actually came from Juliet, as he is trying to listen you can
actually hear some of the sounds that the smoke monster makes.
I think it was the smoke monster that Miles heard and not
Juliet. In that case, Juliet would be right in that it didn't
work.
The
first is the reality of the original story line which continues
to take place on the island. In this reality, all detonating
Jughead appears to have accomplished was to fatally injure
Juliet, blow up the Swan Hatch site and jump them through
time once more to get Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Hurley, Jin, Sayid
and the dying Juliet to 2008.
In
the second reality, we have Flight 815 safely landing in LA.
But there are some odd things in this reality that are very
different than what we saw on the original Flight 815. Most
obviously, the plane doesn't crash. However, there are some
more subtle differences as well. And to truly appreciate these
differences, you really need to know LOST.
What's
different? Here are some examples for starters. Their seat
assignments have been switched around. Boone is traveling
without Shannon. Desmond is on the plane on this trip. As
evidenced by his passport,
Sayid is an Iranian, not an Iraqi and he is five years younger
than we had been told he is. Sun and Jin aren't married, as
she is not
wearing a wedding ring and is called Ms. Paik. Rose calms
Jack down instead of the other way around. And Hurley the
Millionaire says he is the luckiest guy alive. On top of all
of these and many others, we have Jack who seems a little
befuddled that they didn't crash, he then asks Desmond if
they have met before, and then we see Jack
staring into the mirror in the bathroom in S6E1 as if he is
trying to figure out what is happening. Then in S6E3 Jack
and Kate
exchange glances at each other as if they recognize each other
is some way other than bumping into each other on the plane.
Regarding
roles in the alternate reality, it is entirely possible that
some of the roles in the alternate reality that had been good
roles are now bad ones and vice versa. For instance
Hurley tells Sawyer that "Nothing bad ever happens to
me, I'm the luckiest guy alive". It could mean that the
role of millionaire in the alternate reality is now a good
one, not a bad one. Just be aware that I will continue to
catalogue roles according to the way I have been doing it
all along. It would be a logistical nightmare for me to try
and re-catorgorize good and bad roles in the alternate reality.
Regarding
roles in the on-island reality, the Dharma logos seen on the
jumpsuits in S6E1 no longer indicate roles after Jughead is
detonated.
S6E6
ended at sundown on the night of Day 105. Yes, S6E1-S6E6 covered
only one day
S6E7
and S6E8 covered Day 106. In fact, S6E8 ended at dinner time
for the FLockettes on Day 106
S6E9
Begins on the beach at the end of Day 106 and ends on the
morning of Day 107
S6E10
Starts on the evening of Day 106 in the FLockettes camp and
ends the night of Day 107 in both the beach camp and in the
FLockettes camp
S6E11
takes place on the night of Day 107
S6E12,
as of the end of the episode, after the next sunrise, the
LOSTies have until approximately 4:00pm, the approximate time
that Flight 815 crashed on the island, to accomplish all of
their objectives to end Level 6 and the game
Level
6 Instructions:
It seems as if our main source of instructions
on the island so far is Jacob.
In S6E1 Jacob instructs Hurley to bring Sayid to the
Temple. We get
one big piece of information about the rules in S6E4 when
the young
boy that appears to FLocke warns him "You know the
rules. You can't kill him", meaning Jacob. Hmmm.... does
that mean that Jacob can find a way to take over someone's
body just as FLocke did?
The
most obvious instructions that Jacob gives are the ones that
he gives to Hurley in S6E5. He tells Hurley how to find the
secret way out of the Temple and has Hurley write down the
directions to the Lighthouse on his arm (1,
2)
There
is a map of Williams Conservatory located under the Exit sign
on the wall near where Dogen is standing
In
S6E5 Jacob also tells Hurley that Jack has something to do.
And more importantly, that "Sometimes you can just hop
in the back of someone's cab and tell them what they're supposed
to do. Other times... you have to let them look out at the
Ocean for a while".
In
S6E5 we also see all the files that Jack and Margo are going
through to locate Christian's will. Including one of the files
that Margo pulls off the shelf that has Arabic writing on
it. The word on it means Ya'qub, which is the Arabic version
of the name Jacob.
S6E6
gives us more rules when we learn that FLocke can not come
in the Temple as long as Dogen was alive. So what about the
ashes? Why don't they work if Dogen is dead?
In
S6E7, Principal Reynolds tells us that "some of us have
to pull double duty". Implying that it is possible to
be in two roles at once. For example, in Ben's case, doctor
and teacher
Richard
gives us a new rule in S6E7 when he says "I can't kill
myself" and implies that being touched by Jacob is the
reason. We have seen Jacob touch Jack, Sawyer, Hurley, Kate,
Sayid, Sun and Jin, and finally Ben, just before he died.
It would imply that they can't commit suicide, as Jack surmised
when he chose to stay with Richard and the fuse
goes out on the dynamite. The question is, does being
touched just mean you can't kill yourself, or does it mean
that you never age?
There
are several maps in Ben's classroom (1,
2),
a map of Africa on a students
t-shirt and a map on Alex's
book in S6E7.
There
were also files seen in the following episodes:
S6E3 Files
in the room in Mercy Hospital
S6E4 Files
on Lynn
Karnoff's desk
S6E5 Jack
and Margo
Shepard go through Christian's file. One of the files that
Margo pulls off the shelf that has Arabic writing on it. The
word on it means Ya'qub, which is the Arabic version of the
name Jacob.
S6E5 There are files
on the table in Jack's living/dining room
S6E6 There are files on the shelf in Dogen's "office"
S6E6 Jack
is seen flipping though a patient's chart and the nurses
are seen carrying files
S6E7 Files
near the school secretary's desk
S6E7 Files
in Principal Reynolds office
S6E7 Ben
caries a file with copies of the emails in it
S6E8 In the police station
S6E10 The black
manuals and file cabinets in the customs office
S6E10 The woman
standing behind the hotel clerk is reading a black file
S6E10 Zoe enters Room 23 carrying
files
S6E11 Files are seen behind Widmore
S6E11 There are manuals
on the shelves behind Widmore
S6E11 There are files
on the desk and behind the glass wall in the hospital
examining room
S6E11 There are files
and manuals behind the nurses desk
S6E12 There are files in Dr. Brooks' office (1,
2)
S6E13 There are files in the police station and Sawyer reads
from Kate's file (1,
2)
S6E13 There are files
near the receptionist's desk
S6E13 There are files
near the computer at the hospital
I have stated before that a Man of Faith can face down
the smoke monster, as Eko did during his first encounter with
it. S6E9 gives us another example of this. Richard
does the same thing by praying as the Black Smoke Monster
"reads" him with flashes of light. As a result,
Richard
is spared and the Black Smoke Monster leaves
Jacob
tells Ilana that Richard will know what to do. Yet, he insists
that the does not, until Isabella tells him through Hurley
in S6E9 that he "has to stop the Man in Black"
In
S6E10, FLocke tells Jin "the only way we can leave the island
is if all the names that haven't been crossed off go together"
So, if I am right about the kids being the real six candidates,
then FLocke won't be able to leave no matter what he does.
I also have to say that I am still leaning toward the possibility
that my man Hurley could still be the only one of the LOSTies,
besides the kids, that is still a candidate
In
S6E10, Jin tells Sun that running away is "forbidden"
and Keamy says anyone who works for Paik knows the cardinal
rule- hands off the boss's daughter and "I'm
sorry. Some people just aren't meant to be together"
In
S6E10, Zoe shows Jin the map
of the pockets of electromagnetism on the island that he signed
There
are red flashes in S6E10. Two of them occur as FLocke comes
back to the camp (1,
2)
and them there is a series
of flashes as FLocke looks at the sonic fence
In
S6E11, we have Eloise back giving Desmond some rules:
Eloise tells Desmond "Someone has clearly affected the
way you see things. This is a serious problem. In fact, it's
a violation. So whatever you're doing, whatever it is you
think you're looking for... You need to stop looking for it?"
and then tells Desmond that he is not ready to see the list
yet. Looks like someone is losing some points here as a violation
for not following the rules correctly.
S6E11 had lots and lots of flashes. The flashing
lights in the generator
room; the red
light flashing on the piece of equipment Simmons uses;
the white flashes in
the box when Simmons is killed that can also be seen outside
the box; there are several blue flashes as Zoe and Jin
walk past the box, as Zoe
and Seamus enter the box, and there is a peculiar blue
oval flash that appears on Seamus; there are flashing
lights inside as Desmond is exposed to the electromagnetic
pulses; and of course the white flashes that Desmond experiences
between visions of Penny and both Charlie Pace and his son
Charlie when he is in the MRI; the white flash Desmond experiences
when he is trying to get Charlie out of the car and the doctor
flashing
a flashlight into Desmond's
eyes .
Desmond's
primary role in S6E12 and S6E13 was as an Advisor, trying
to get all of the LOSTies in the alterverse to remember their
"other life"
S6E12
Hurley experiences flashes when he kisses Libby on the beach,
the first and fifth ones are white flashes (1,
2,
3,
4,
5,
6,
7).
There are also some red flashes as Michael and Hurley are
speaking (1,
2)
In
S6E12, Hurley states that "Dead people are more reliable
that alive people", however, I believe that Michael was
lying to Hurley when he tried to convince him not to blow
up the plane, just to get him to go to FLocke's camp
There
is a red
dot that appears on Jack in S6E13 as they race to meet
up with Sawyer and Kate and there
is a flashing
red light reflected off the doors of the office building
As
of the end of S6E13, Day 108 has now been completed. Now all
that's left is for the LOSTies to accomplish all of their
objectives and requirements to end Level 6 and the game. I
have been referring to the alterverse as another game. But
perhaps it is just a special requirement for Level 6 to end.
Maybe this eighth requirement is that all of the LOSTies have
to be brought together in one place and remember the crash
of Flight 815 and being on the island. In that case, the role
that Desmond has been in of Advisor, is very important to
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deaths of characters can be directly related to the 'good'
vs. 'bad' roles that
they were in at particular times during the game and to the
actions that each character took when they were in those roles.
As stated above, cooperating for "The Greater Good"
is a primary theme of LOST.
Looking
at the roles more closely reveals that the deaths of Boone,
Shannon, Charlie and Neil aka Frogurt occurred for similar
reasons. Likewise the deaths of Ana Lucia and Eko occurred
for similar reasons. It also reveals that certain characters,
at this point, have a greater chance of dying.
Shannon
and Boone
The deaths of Shannon and Boone appear to be the direct result
of them each having occupied the 'bad' role of Useless
on three separate occasions. Apparently there seems to be
a three strikes and your dead rule as far as the role of Useless
is concerned.
Ana
Lucia and Eko
The deaths of Ana Lucia and Eko are related, as both of these
characters killed people while they were in 'good' roles.
Ana Lucia killed Jason in S2E8 when she was in the 'good'
role of Sheriff and
she killed Shannon in S2E6 when she was in the 'good' role
of Leader. As for
Eko, he killed the drug dealers in S3E5 while he was in the
'good' role of Man
of Faith. The monster, in the form of Yemi, asked Eko
to confess his sins as a killer while he was in the Man of
Faith role. Eko refused to do so when he said to Yemi in S3E5
"I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned.
I have only done what I needed to do to survive" and
was killed by the black smoke monster. So it looks as if we
now have proof that a Man of Faith may be able to face down
the monster. We saw this before in S1E4 when Locke was the
Man of Faith and survived his encounter with the monster,
and later in S2E10 when Eko faced down the black smoke monster.
But, Eko's failure to confess his sins in S3E5, while he was
in a 'good' role, resulted in his death.
Alex
You should check the discussion above on Alex's
Death and the Rules. I believe it may somehow be related
to the fact that this is the very first time that Ben admits
that he kidnapped Alex as a baby
Arzt
The death of Arzt in S1E23 was a direct result of his failure
to cooperate for "The Greater Good". In S2E23, the
only LOSTie that is rude and insists that he, and he alone,
can perform a particular task is Arzt when they are moving
the dynamite. While he was in the 'good ' role of Teacher
just before his death, he failed to cooperate. And then he
blew to pieces. No wonder he died. He would not have been
able to move on to Season 2/Level 2 because he failed to cooperate
in his 'good' role
Michael
I believe that the next time we see Michael after the S2 Finale
that he will soon be dead for a number of reasons. Primarily
because he did not cooperate with the LOSTies for "The
Greater Good". First, he used the computer to communicate
with Walt. Then he murdered two LOSTies, Ana Lucia and Libby.
And finally, he led the LOSTies into a trap and he finished
the Season 2 Finale as Daddy,
a 'bad' role. For these reasons, I think the next time we
see Michael he will either be dead, or will die soon afterwards
for his previous actions
In
S4E8, when asks by Sayid why he is on the Kahana, Michael
replies "I'm here to die". He also attempts suicide
four times in S4E8, by smashing
his car into a cargo container, by trying to shoot himself
in
the alley but Tom/Mr. Friendly stops him, by trying to
shoot himself in
his room but the gun won't fire, and by activating
the bomb. In all cases, he fails. Tom/Mr. Friendly tells
him in the alley that "The island won't let you"
and the note that pops up from the bomb says "Not
Yet". Both Tom/Mr. Friendly and Ben essentially tell
Michael the same thing, that he has work to do before he can
die. This is obviously a case of course correction, Michael
will not be able to commit suicide before he completes whatever
the task is that he needs to do.
In
S4E11, Keamy tries to shoot Michael twice, but Keamy's gun
won't fire. Captain Gault tells Keamy about Michael "He's
the only one who can fix the engines" So perhaps this
is the task that Michael must complete before he will be allowed
to die. And when Sayid asks Gault "Michael, is he dead?"
Gault replies "No but not for lack of trying"
In
S4E13 Michael sees Christian who tells him "You can go
now Michael", just before the bomb explodes. Michael
is in the role of Sacrifice when this happens. I had predicted
way back at the end of Season 2 that when we next saw Michael,
he would die soon afterwards.
Locke
Locke has been in danger of dying for a long time.
Locke
has been in the 'bad' role of Useless
at least twice (S1E6 and S2E21). Being Useless three
times appears to be the reason for the deaths of Shannon,
Boone and Charlie and perhaps Neil, aka Frogurt.
Has
Locke been "Useless" again after the Oceanic 6 left?
Maybe they'll be a 'Useless" reference before leaving
the island , or maybe we'll see it in one of the meetings
he has with the Oceanic 6 off the island.
Locke
has also exhibited some behaviors that have seemed to also
put him in danger of dying but he always seems to find some
kind of an "out".
He
fought with Eko over pushing the button, smashed the monitor
and, along with Desmond, he locked everyone else out of the
hatch. He had moved into the 'bad' role Man
of Science. This was a complete lack of cooperation and
was completely contrary to the objectives of Level 2. His
very last line in the Season 2 Finale has him saying "I
was wrong" and then there was his lengthy "I'm sorry"
confession to Eko in S3E3. However, it should be remembered
that Ana Lucia's apology in S2E16 to Sayid for killing Shannon,
where Ana Lucia said "I'm sorry. I'm sorry for what I
did", was not enough to allow her to remain alive. While
Locke's apology must have been sufficient to allow him continue
to be alive in Season 3 and 4, there is another factor that
is negatively affecting him.
S3E11
would lead the average viewer to believe that Locke screwed
up once again when he blew up the Flame Hatch. However, he
was in the good role of the Man of Faith when he was entering
the numbers into the computer and he was following the instructions
given to him by Marvin Candle/Mark Wickman in the Flame Hatch
video.
The
last time that Locke was seen in S3E15, he was speaking to
Kate and he was in the 'bad' role of Lawyer when he told Kate
that he was leaving with the Others. However, we do not know
his actions or what role he was in during the last day and
a half of Level 3. It is possible that he was in a 'good'
role at the very end of Level 3, which would allow him to
continue. We won't know until we are shown what he did during
that last day and a half.
In
S3E19 Locke tells Sawyer "I'm on my own journey now"
which means that he has decided to stop acting for the Greater
Good. This is just one more thing that is putting Locke in
jeopardy of dying.
In
S3E20 Locke is shot by Ben/Fake Henry and left
for dead. While Locke has shown that the island can heal
his paralysis and his injured legs, it will be curious to
see if it can cure his gunshot wound. Several characters have
died from gunshot wounds (Shannon, Ana Lucia, Libby, Ethan,
Danny Pickett and several Others) and Sawyer took an incredible
amount of time during the beginning of Season 2 to heal from
the gunshot wound to his shoulder. Sayid also took a very
long time to heal from the gun shot wound that he got from
Patchy in S3E11, he was still healing from it at least 8 days
later. Perhaps gunshot wounds to the chest/stomach are fatal.
In S3E22 Locke has survived the gunshot wound, trekked to
the Radio Tower and attempted to kill Naomi. And then he leaves
on his own. It will be interesting to see just how he heals
in Season 4.
By
S4E1 Locke appears to have healed completely from the gun
shot wound. Although, he does show the wound to Sawyer and
the group of LOSTies with him in S4E2. Locke has taken over
the leadership of the LOSTies who followed him to New Otherton,
and he even goes so ar as telling Kate that "this is
not a democracy" in S4E4. Also in this episode, he introduces
himself to Miles and says "My name is John Locke and
I'm responsible for the well being of this island." So
he's a leader who apparently cares more about the island than
he does for the people under his leadership. That does not
bode well for him as he is not leading for "The Greater
Good". Further, in S4E7, Bernard offers Jin the following
advice "You make bad choices, bad things happen to you"
and "You make good choices and then good things..."
Giving the first indication in the game that bad things will
happen to the various characters if they make bad choices.
This is part of the discussion where Bernard explains why
he and Rose chose to stay with Jack rather than going with
Locke "Because it was the right thing to do, Locke is
a murderer". Juliet also warns Sun about leaving Jack's
group to join Locke saying "This is a bad idea".
The implication is that anything bad that now happens
to Locke is probably a result of the game punishing him due
to his own bad choices.
In
S5E5 Locke says to Christian Shepard "Richard said I
was going to die" and Christian replies "Well, I
suppose that's why they call it Sacrifice". While it
may be an indication that Locke will die in the Role
of "Sacrifice", I found that something else
that Christian said was very curious. He admonished Locke
for not being the one who moved the island, when he was specifically
told to do it himself. This is at least the second
time that Locke has been told to do something himself and
he has allowed someone else to do it. In S3E19, Locke
was supposed to kill Anthony Cooper, instead he manipulates
Sawyer into doing it. Is this another reason why Locke could
die? I don't know but there now seem to be a number of possible
reasons for why it will happen. I guess we won't know the
actual answer until his death is actually seen.
Finally,
in S5E7 we see Locke's inability to convince the Oceanic 6
to return and the fact that he seems to be ignoring the fact
that Walt has to return as well. And Locke refers to himself
as a "failure". Could this be Locke's third and
last time in the role of "Useless' that finally provides
a reason for his death?
Charlie
I took an awful lot of grief from people in October of 2006
when I predicted that Charlie was in danger of dying. I said
that Charlie was in danger of dying since he had been in the
'bad' role of Useless
in S1E3 and in S1E7. And I was criticized for this by fans
who love Charlie and thought I was nuts.
Sorry
to tell all the Charlie fans this, but S3E21 gave us Charlie
in the role of Useless
for the third time when he said to Liam "I quit"
and "We're a bloody joke".
The
rule of dying when you have been Useless three times appears
to still apply in Level 4. Just as it apparently applied to
both Boone and Shannon, Charlie needed to die before the change
to Level 5. And that is exactly what we saw in S3E22 when
he drowned in the Looking Glass
Claire
In S6E8, Claire gets
the first strike against her when she tries to kill Kate,
while Claire is in the role of Mom. Mom's shouldn't kill.
As FLocke ( in the role of Daddy) indicates when he slaps
Claire across the face and says "This is completely inappropriate"
Daniel
Why did Daniel die in
S5E14? I think it's because he was actually attempting to
blow up the Swan Hatch for one purpose and one purpose only,
to save Charlotte. It had nothing to do with 'The Greater
Good'. It was pure and simple selfishness on his part. Daniel
thought that if he could stop the Swan Hatch from being built,
that Charlotte would never have had to die
Daniel's
death is actually similar to what happened to Arzt near the
end of Season 1. Arzt wasn't cooperating for 'The Greater
Good', he thought he knew better and wound up blowing himself
up. Likewise, Daniel has his own motives and he winds up dead
as a result. But if that's the case, then why would
there be a chance that Jack or Juliet or any of the other
LOSTies might survive Jughead? Simple, they were attempting
to blow up the Swan Hatch before it could be completed, but
they were doing it for "The Greater Good", their
motives were completely different that Daniel's
Desmond
Desmond has done two very curious things as far as Charlie
is concerned. There have been two occasions where Desmond
has rudely pushed Charlie aside during a life saving attempt.
Desmond did it once in S3E8 when he pushed Charlie aside after
he pulled Claire from the water and then the same thing happens
in S3E17 when Desmond again pushed Charlie aside when he wanted
to get to Naomi
At
first I thought it might put Desmond in danger of dying, but
then we saw Hurley being treated rudely by Charlie in S3E21
when he told him he wouldn't "...fit in the boat"
and then in S3E22 when Sawyer insults Hurley and turns down
Hurley's offer of help by saying "Hugo, just look at
you..."
I
am now starting to think that the act of turning down someone's
offer of help may not be a death knell but could simply mean
that the action could result in a loss of points
Jack
In S3E6, Jack is in the role of "Doctor",
a 'good' role and he actually damages Ben/Fake Henry's kidney
and threatens that he will let him die, which would actually
be murder. I assume this is the first strike against Jack
In S5E11 Jack gets his second major strike against him when
he is in the role of "Doctor" and he flatly refuses
to operate on Young Ben who will die without his help
Ilana
I am leaning heavily toward her being Useless
three times in S6E12. First, she couldn't convince everyone
that blowing up the plane was a good idea; second, she had
"been training my whole life for this" which was
to protect the candidates, and yet she brought the dangerous
dynamite into their midst; and then, as Ben said, Ilana had
already told the candidates who they were and "the island
was done with her". I had also considered that Ilana
might have been in the role of Sacrifice. That she died so
that none of the candidates would be harmed by the dynamite.
But she is the one who put them in harms way by bringing back
the dynamite, and it's too hard to ignore the strong statements
by Ilana herself and by Ben about what Ilana's purpose was.
So, I'm sticking with Useless.
Kate
In S3E19, Kate may have placed herself in danger of dying
when she acted against "The Greater Good" and told
Jack and Juliet about Naomi parachuting onto the island
In
S5E5, Kate is Aaron's "Mom", yet she leaves Aaron
behind to be "Raised by Another" and could be putting
herself on the list of LOSTies in danger of dying
Libby
The death of Libby has yet to be fully explored and we will
probably see more about the reason for her death in future
flash backs. For now, we know that Libby had claimed to be
a psychiatrist. Perhaps something 'bad' she did while in the
'good' role of Doctor
or even the 'good' role of Crazy
will be the reason why she wound up dead
To
complicate things even further, there is a quote from Sayid
in S1E21 where he tells Essam that "innocent lives will
be lost in the service of a great good." Perhaps Libby's
death was really just an accident as Michael referred to it
in S2E24
Neil
aka Frogurt
Did Neil die because of the three times as "Useless"
and you're out rule that both Shannon and Charlie were victims
of? In S5E2 we see a very annoying Neil harassing Bernard
about starting the fire and he is actually chastised by Rose and/or
Sawyer on three occasions just before his death.
It's possible that he was actually
"Useless" three times in rapid succession in this
same episode. The only other time we saw Neil
was in the Lost Missing Pieces we had during the Summer 2007
hiatus, see "The Adventures of Hurley and Frogurt"
Sawyer
In S3E19, Sawyer added himself to the list of characters who
are in danger of dying. He was in the 'good' role of Prisoner
when he killed Anthony Cooper. And Sawyer put himself in further
danger of dying when he committed murder by shooting Tom/Mr.
Friendly in cold-blood in the Season 3 Finale
Sawyer
has also put himself in danger of dying by not acting for
the Greater Good. In S6E3 Sawyer claims he is on his own.
In S6E8 he
also tells Kate "I ain't with anybody"
Sayid
Sayid shot young Ben, need I say more. I think
that was a big non-no. Even Juliet and Kate discussed the
fact that Ben was just a kid. That's why Kate, Juliet and
Sawyer acted to save his life by bringing him to the Others
Sayid
was also in the 'good' role of Diplomat in S6E6 to deliver
FLocke's message when he kills Dogen & Lennon, and causes
the mass slaughter at the Temple. And, in S6E13 I got the
prediction that Sayid would die proved correct
Sun
The
only reason I can think of for Sun's death is that she was
so single minded in the Role of Star Crossed Lover (a bad
role) throughout all of Season 6. She was never really acting
for 'The Greater Good'. All she was interested in was finding
Jin. I mean com'on, how much more selfish can you get than
a Mom of a small child wanting her husband, the baby's father,
to stay and die with her? What, she had no thoughts of Ji
Yeon at all?
The
Pilot
The death of the Pilot has not yet been fully explored. Since
he was flying the plane, he may have actually be in the 'good'
role of the Leader
in S1E1 and perhaps 'pilot error' actually contributed to
the plane being off its flight path and crashing
Walt
As many of you know, I correctly predicted the deaths of a
few characters. Although no one seemed to care when I predicted
that Michael would die within a few day of getting back to
the island, or when I predicted that some of the rest of the
LOSTies would die. But, I have to say that I have never had
as much angry email as when I correctly predicted that Charlie
would die.
And
so, I haven't wanted to say anything about Walt possibly being
in danger of dying, because I was concerned with the possible
backlash I would get. But there have always seemed to be limited
options for Walt to be able to survive.
It
has to do with the number of days he will have spent on the
island. The LOSTies have to spend a total of 108 days on the
island, that’s why they have to go back, they are just
few days short of the total. If Walt is required to go back
as well as the Oceanic 6, he doesn’t possibly have enough
time to make up the days since he left the island. He left
on Day 65, that would mean he would need to have another 43
days on the island.
There
seems to be only three possible options for Walt:
1)
If Walt has to go back, and goes back with the Oceanic 6.
There’s not enough time left for him to complete 108
days on the island before Season 6 ends. So if they bring
him back with the Oceanic 6, he will have to die because there
is no way for him to complete this game requirement.
2)
The only way that seemed likely for Walt to complete the 108
on island days would be for him to get back to the island
at least 37 island days before the rest of the Oceanic 6 arrive.
Right now, this doesn't seem to be an option since no is even
mentioning the fact that Walt has to come back.
3)
This is the best option for Walt's fans. He is not required
to go back because of some rule we are unaware of, or because
he has been designated in the role of Special so many times.
Fortunately, S5E1 gave us this possible reason for Walt to
be able to live, when Daniel says to Desmond "The rules
don't apply to you. You're special. You're uniquely and miraculously
special." If Walt is also Special, then perhaps the rules
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Earning
Points |
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To date, I have found references to characters earning
points, trust, adaptability, good will and time.
It
also appears that points may be earned for working in Teams,
for Saving someone, for
locating and using Maps &
Keys, for finding items on the island,
for providing hope, for saying you
are sorry and for forgiving someone
(or Letting Them Off The Hook).
At
this time it is impossible to know just how many points might
be awarded for certain actions.
Rewards
vs. Earning Points
There are instances where it appears that rewards may be granted
for certain activities. Examples of possible rewards have
been numerous, they range from simply locating various needed
food sources to locating weapons. What is not always evident
is exactly which action is responsible for the reward or whether
the 'game players' are actually purchasing the items with
earned points. The bottom line is that it is very
difficult to tell if we are dealing with a reward or a purchase.
It
is possible that an equal number of points are granted to
either the "Light" or the "Dark" player
if they get a character to move to a 'good' or 'bad' role
respectively.
I
also believe that it is probable that certain actions like
saving someone's life would result in being awarded more points
than finding a hatch or a map. On the flip side "Dark"
probably gets points for actions such as kidnapping LOSTies,
introducing a version of the monster that results in the LOSTies
changing plans or getting a character like Sayid to torture
Sawyer.
It
also appears that points may be lost for
an action that goes against the objectives of the game. In
S3E9 Ben/Fake Henry says to Jack "And here we go again.
I've already given you a ticket off this island, Jack What's
it going to cost me this time?" And in the same episode,
Achara tells Jack that there will be consequences for him
forcing her to give her the tattoo.
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| References
to Having Hope/Providing Hope and Wishing Someone Good Luck |
| S1E3 |
Sayid
says that "hope is a very dangerous thing to lose" |
| S1E7 |
Michael
says "Good Luck"
Hurley wishes Charlie "Good Luck" |
| S1E18 |
Dr.
Curtis wishes Hurley "Good Luck"
Locke tells Claire that it's good luck that Aaron will born
close to her birthday |
| S1E21 |
Haddad
wishes Sayid and Essam good luck |
| S1E23 |
Jack,
Sawyer, Hurley and Michael and wish each other "good luck" |
| S1E24 |
Hurley
asks Locke what he thinks is inside the hatch and Locke replies
"Hope, I think hope is inside" |
| S2E1 |
Christian
tells Jack "You might want to try handing out some hope
sometime"
Desmond says "good luck" to Jack |
S2E3
&
S2E9 |
Marvin
Candle wishes the Dharma Initiative participants "Good
Luck" on the Orientation Film |
| S2E19 |
Rose
warns Bernard that he is giving people false hope
Bernard tells Rose he had given up hope of finding someone like
her
Charlie wishes Bernard "Good Luck" |
| S2E21 |
Mark
Wickman wishes the Dharma Initiative participants "Good
Luck" in the Pearl Hatch Orientation Video |
| S2E22 |
Sayid
wishes Michael "Good Luck" |
| S2E24 |
Kelvin
wishes Desmond "Good Luck" |
| S3E6 |
Sawyer
tells Kate he didn't tell her about being on Alcatraz Island
"Cause I wanted you to believe we had a damn chance"
Jack says to Ben/Fake Henry "You think I'll just do the
surgery and hope that you let me go?" |
| S3E10 |
David
Reyes tells Hurley "Having hope is never stupid" and
"you need a little hope, we make our own luck Hugo"
Hurley says "I have hope" and "We could all use
a little hope" |
| S3E12 |
Sun
tells Claire "This was my mother's worse fear. That I
would end up doing something like this, cutting bait. She
had high hopes for my future, they did not include me marrying
the son of a fisherman"
Charlie says "I don't want to advocate false hope Claire,
that's all"
Christian Shephard tells Claire "Do not keep your mother
alive for the wrong reasons. There is hope and there is guilt"
Claire writes in
the note that she attaches to the seagull "There
is new life too and with it there is hope" |
| S3E13 |
Locke
says "I'd say I hope that box is big enough to imagine
yourself up a new submarine." |
| S3E15 |
Locke
says "Good Luck" |
| S3E18 |
Sun
asks Juliet "If what you say is true, why should I go with
you?" and Juliet replies "Because there may be hope
for you yet" |
| S3E20 |
Ben
wishes Juliet "Good Luck" |
| S3E22 |
Sayid
says "Good Luck" |
| S4E1 |
Jack
asks Kate about trying to find Naomi "Any luck?" |
| S4E3 |
Jack
wishes Sayid "Good Luck" |
| S4E5 |
One
of the soldiers says to Desmond "I hope your dream was
worth this mate" |
| S4E6 |
Harper's
last name is Stanhope
Goodwin discusses the wine with Juliet "I hope this is
good"
Juliet says "I hope you like dinner rolls" |
| S4E7 |
The
store clerk wishes Jin "Good
Luck"
Sayid says "I hope they resolve their kitchen issues"
The toy store clerk
tells Jin "In the year of the dragon, it brings good
luck" |
| S4E8
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The
news reporter says "There's little hope of recovering any
remains. The real story behind what happened to this fateful
airliner may have been lost along with all 324 passengers"
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| S4E10 |
Juliet
says they have to talk Jack into resting and Kate replies "Good
luck with that" |
| S4E11 |
Ben
says "Good luck, John" as Locke heads into the cabin
to meet with Jacob |
| S5E2 |
Darlene
wishes Hurley "Good Luck"
Sun tells Kate about Ji Yeon "I hope someday you'll get
to meet her"
Ben asks Mrs. Hawking "Any luck? |
| S5E3 |
Locke
wishes Sawyer "Good luck.." about trying to save Daniel
from Ellie |
| S5E4 |
Sun
wishes Kate "Good luck" |
| S5E5 |
When
Locke tells Christian Shepard that he is ready, he replies "Good"
and then says "Good Luck, John" |
| S5E6 |
Mrs.
Hawking says "If you any hope of the island bringing you
back, it must be on that plane..." and Jack replies "So
that's it? We just get on that plane and hope that it works?" |
| S5E7 |
Christian
wishes Locke "Good luck, John"
Charles Widmore wishes Locke "Good luck and "Godspeed"
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| S5E8 |
Miles
complains "It's the only two plans you people have"
and Sawyer responds "...You don't like the plan, good luck"
Sawyer asks Jin "Any luck?"
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| S5E10 |
Sawyer
says "Lucky for you I spent that time getting myself in
a position to save your ass" |
| S5E11 |
Juliet
wishes Kate "Good luck" when she leaves with Young
Ben |
| S5E12 |
Locke
asks Ben "Any luck?" about trying to summon the monster
Locke says to Ben"...blindly following someone in the hopes
that they'll lead you to whatever it is you're looking for"
and "Well, let's hope it's as generous this time around" |
| S5E13 |
Kate
tells Roger "I just don't think you should give up hope" |
| S5E14 |
Eloise
Hawking says "Good luck, Daniel"
Daniel says "I guess I'm lucky"
Kate says "Thank You" to Jack when he tosses her the
canteen
Eloise Hawking tells Penny "I came Penelope to apologize"
Daniel says to Kate and Jack "Wish me luck" |
| S6E1
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Hurley
tells Sawyer,"I'm the luckiest guy alive" |
| S6E3 |
Kate
says "Good luck" to Jin
Claire says " Good luck" to Kate, who replies "Yeah,
you too" |
| S6E5 |
Dogen
says to Hurley in Japanese "You're lucky I have to protect
you, or I would remove your head and feed it to the boars"
Margo tells Jack "When you were David's age, your father
was lucky if he could get more than one word out of you at a
time"
After Jack smashes the mirrors (1,
2,
3), Hurley says to Jacob "Thanks for the seven years of
bad luck, by the way" |
| S6E9 |
Jonas
Whitfield tells Richard "This is your lucky day" and
"I hope you don't get sea sick"
Esau/MIB tells Richard "As luck would have it I found these
on one of the officers" |
| S6E10 |
Zoe
says "Well then, you're in luck Mr. Kwon"
Sayid says "Good luck" to Jin |
| S6E11 |
Widmore
says "And I hope for all our sakes' you'll help me"
Minkowski tells Desmond "Good luck" |
| S6E13 |
FLocke
says "Hello, Jack. I was hoping you'd come"
Claire says "I pretty much gave hoping that you'd ever
come back"
Desmond tells Ilana "I was hoping you'd be able to help
her" |
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| References
to Earning Points |
| S1E6 |
Locke
says "He's got a point" about Charlie |
| S1E10 |
Hurley
tells Sawyer to give him the manifest "Cause Dude,
you could use the points" |
| S1E18 |
Michael
says "Walt's got a point." |
| S2E1 |
Locke
says "Well, you've got a point there. |
| S2E2 |
Locke
says "It's pointless to tie me up, I'm not dangerous, but
her, she's a fugitive. |
| S2E7 |
Goodwin
says "Good point" |
| S2E11 |
Locke
says"Uh... no point in changing the combination if you
can get in through the air vent |
| S2E16 |
Ana
Lucia says
"Score one for Henry" |
| S2E20 |
Hurley
says
"I'll score major points" |
| S2E23 |
Hurley
says "I thought the point was to get Walt back." |
| S3E1 |
Jack
says "No. I never saw the point." |
| S3E6 |
Sawyer
says "So unless you're a mermaid or you got a boat, there
ain't no point." |
| S3E9 |
Sawyer
says to Kate about Karl "Golly, I think he's got a good
point" |
| S3E10 |
Charlie
asks "What's the point?" |
| S3E11 |
Hurley
and Sawyer earn points during the ping pong game. Hurley gets
11 total points, while Sawyer gets 3 points
Danielle says "He's making an excellent point." |
| S3E12 |
Charlie
says "Sorry. I don't see the point." |
| S3E17 |
Jack
discusses with Sawyer the fact that he has 18 and then 19 points
in the ping pong game
Hurley says "Isn't that the point? Preventing something
bad?"
Desmond says"It means it's bloody pointless. I keep saving
your life and what good has it done? It's just gonna keep happening
again and again. Maybe that's the point, huh? |
| S3E20 |
Ben
says "You know you didn't have to beat Mikhail senseless
to make your point, John. |
| S3E21 |
Jack
says that "Hiding's pointless" |
| S3E22 |
Bonnie
says "I trust him and I trust Jacob" and "The
minute I start questioning this whole thing, everything we're
doing here starts to fall apart" and Patchy replies "She
makes a good point"
Sayid says "No, you've made your point."
Mikhail says "She makes an excellent point." |
| S4E2 |
Miles
says "What's the point?" |
| S4E7 |
Kate
says about Daniel and Charlotte "I guess they wanted to
earn some brownie points" |
| S4E11 |
Ben
tells Hurley about trying to kill Locke "I should have
realized it was pointless"
Sayid tells Gault that"Hiding is pointless" |
| S5E1 |
Daniel
tells Sawyer "It's pointless" to go back and Sawyer
asks "More pointless than staring at a hole in the ground?"
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| S5E8 |
Phil
says "That's not the point" |
| S5E15 |
Horace
says "Beating him is pointless" |
| S5E16 |
Jacob
says "It takes a very long time when you are making the
thread, I suppose that's the point, isn't it?" |
| S6E6 |
Keamy
says "I'm just gonna get to the point" |
| S6E9 |
Ben
says "I've known him since I was 12 years old. That should
count for something" |
| S6E10 |
Jack
tells Sun "It will take a little longer to get your point
across" |
| S6E12 |
Sayid
tells FLocke "I didn't see the point of killing them when
I had what I came for"
Jack tells Hurley"...maybe that's the point...maybe I'm
supposed to let go"
FLocke asks Desmond "You're out here in the middle of the
jungle, with me, not a person on earth even knows you're here.
Why aren't you afraid?" and Desmond responds "What's
the point in being afraid?"
David says "Good luck Dad" and Jack replies "Thanks"
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| Points
for Trusting Someone (also see Trust Issues on the
Duplicates page) |
| S1E3 |
The
Marshall warns Jack not to trust Kate |
| S1E6 |
Jack
says to Kate "Trust me, if I was checking you out you would
know it" |
| S1E13 |
Jack
asks Charlie if he trusts Locke |
| S2E12 |
Locke
tells Charlie "Trust is a hard thing to win back" |
| S2E13 |
Jack
says "Trust me Ana, no one thinks we're safe" |
| S2E14 |
Danielle
says "Trust me" to Sayid about Ben/Fake Henry being
an Other |
| S2E17 |
Locke
says "I trusted you Henry, now you gotta trust me" |
| S2E19 |
Bernard
tells Rose "Trust me. I can do this"
Rose tells Bernard that the island has healed her "Trust
me, I know" |
| S2E20 |
Hurley
says to Libby "I'm not LOST. Trust me" |
| S3E1 |
Juliet
tells Jack "You can trust me" and asks him "Can
I trust you Jack?" |
| S3E2 |
Ben/Fake
Henry tells Jack "If you listen to me, if you trust me,
if you do what I tell you, when the time comes, I will take
you there. I will take you home" |
| S3E5 |
Juliet
says "I told you before, you can trust me" and "I
want you to trust me" |
| S3E6 |
Jack
says to Ben/Fake Henry "You think I believe you people?
You think I trust you? |
| S3E13 |
Kate
questions Jack "You trust these people? They are liars!
Why would you believe a word that..." and he says "I
trust them because you told me to, Kate. When you asked me to
save Sawyer's life." |
| S3E14 |
Paolo
tells Nikki "I don't trust that guy" meaning Arzt |
| S3E15 |
Kate
says to Locke "You can't trust them. If they told you they're
going to take you home, they're lying" |
| S3E16 |
Sun
says "Trust her? She's one of them"
Sayid says "But, I don't trust her either, Jack" and
when Jack says "The fact that I trust her should be enough",
Sayid replies "It's not"
When Charlie asks Jack "How can you even trust her?"
Jack replies "I do trust her" and "Do you trust
me?", Charlie replies "Yeah"
Ben/Fake Henry tells Juliet "Tell Jack that you can save
her. He trusts you" |
| S3E17 |
Desmond
says to Charlie "I've saved your live 3 times now. If that
hasn't earned me trust, I don't know what will" |
| S3E18 |
Charlie
says to Desmond about Patchy "You can't trust him, you
know" |
| S3E19 |
Ben/Fake
Henry tells Locke about plans to kidnap the pregnant LOSTies
"Trust me, no one will get hurt"
Desmond asks Hurley about Jack "Can you give me your
word that he can be trusted?" and then says to Charlie
"So you better bring us someone we can trust"
Locke tells Sawyer "James, please, you have to trust
me"
Kate tells Jack that nobody told him about Naomi "Because
they don't trust you" |
| S3E20 |
Ben
tells Locke about Jacob "He trusts me" |
| S3E21 |
Jack
asks Kate about Karl "Do you trust him?" and Karl
says about Juliet "Trust me, what about her?"and
"She's a spy" |
| S3E22 |
Naomi
says to Jack about Juliet "because none of your people
trust her"
Ben/Fake Henry says to Mikhail Bakunin/Patchy "I'm asking
you to trust me, to trust Jacob who told me to do this"
Bonnie says "I trust him and I trust Jacob" and "The
minute I start questioning this whole thing, everything we're
doing here starts to fall apart" and Patchy replies "She
makes a good point" |
| S4E1 |
Jack
tells Danielle he doesn't trust Ben with anybody but himself
Locke says "And trust me." |
| S4E3 |
Kate
asks Jack "Don't you trust Sayid?" and Jack replies
"I don't trust Locke"
Ben tells Sayid "I know, it's no use having friends you
can't trust" |
| S4E4 |
Kate
tells Sawyer "...because I don't trust you"
Sawyer tells Kate "No sense in him not trusting both of
us" |
| S4E5 |
Desmond
tells Billy "I'm telling you the truth, man"
Frank tells Sayid "You gotta trust me, I'm trying to help
you"
Desmond begs Penny "I'm not crazy Penny, you have to believe
me, you have to trust me" as he is saying "trust me",
he comes back to 2004 and Sayid hears it and replies "I
do trust you, but you still have to remember that number" |
| S4E6 |
Juliet
says "Trust me, Jack. You don't want to see my file"
Harper tells Juliet "What does matter is that you listen
to me and that you believe me. If you continue to have a relationship
with Goodwin, there will be consequences"
Ben tells Locke "Believe me, your people are gonna be so
angry when they realize you still don't have a plan"
Locke tells Ben "I don't trust your word"
Juliet says to Goodwin "Trust me, Ben has enough on his
plate..." |
| S4E7 |
A
note
is passed through a slot in the door that says "Don't
trust the captain"
Sun tells Juliet "I don't trust these people" in reference
to the Boaties and Juliet says to Sun "I know I have been
less than truthful" and "After all you have confided
in me, I should at least have your trust" and Sun responds
"No, I don't trust you"
Sun tells Hurley "I trust you" when he holds the baby" |
| S4E10 |
Bernard
says to Daniel and Charlotte "I want the truth"
and Daniel replies "I don't know, that's the truth.."
Sun says about Daniel and Charlotte "We can't trust them"
and Daniel says to Charlotte "Your attitude, your very
bad attitude, it's exactly why they don't trust us"
Jack
wants to know what Kate is up to and Kate asks Jack to trust
her about where she had been. Kate finally admits that she
did something for Sawyer because she made him a promise |
| S4E11 |
Michael
tells Frank Lapidus "I didn't know if I could trust you"
and then tells him "You don't want that on your conscious,
trust me" |
| S4E12 |
Sayid
says to Daniel, "I trust you know the bearing" when
he gives Daniel the compass
Ben admits he "...wasn't being entirely truthful" |
| S5E1 |
Daniel
asks Sawyer "How about you trust me?" and Sawyer replies
"Trust you, I don't even know you" |
| S5E2 |
David
Reyes tells Jack "Hugo says I can trust you"
Hurley tells Ben "They would never trust you" and
Ben replies "...I'm not an easy person to trust" |
| S5E3 |
Daniel
tells Ellie "I need you to trust me" and Ellie replies
'I don't trust you"
Jones/Young Charles Widmore asks Richard about Locke "You
can't seriously trust him?" |
| S5E7 |
Charles
Widmore says to Locke "You still don't trust me" and
Locke replies "You sent a team of killers and a boat-load
of C4 to the island, that doesn't exactly scream trust"
Locke tells Sayid, "You have to trust me"
Hurley tells Locke about Abaddon "He's evil. You should
not be trusting that guy" |
| S5E8 |
Sawyer
says "We should all do a better job of trusting.." |
| S5E9 |
Sawyer
says "Trust me, do what I say, everything will be fine"
Lapidus says "You don't really think you can trust him
do you?" and Sun replies "I have to trust him" |
| S5E10 |
Sawyer
tells Sayid "...these people trust me" |
| S5E11 |
Cassidy asks Kate "Why'd you trust me?" |
| S5E12 |
Ben
tells Sun "Trust me, I'm sure"
Charles Widmore tells Ben "The island won't let you come
back, trust me" |
| S5E13 |
Horace
tells Miles "Jim already knows this but I'm gonna bring
you into the circle
of trust" and asks "Can I trust you Miles?".
When Miles replies "Absolutely", Horace says "Good"
Horace tells Miles "Welcome to the circle of trust"
Miles tells Radzinsky "I'm in the circle of trust"
Hurley tells Miles "You can trust me, I talk to lots of
dead people" |
| S5E15 |
Ben
says "What, John, don't you trust me here with my former
people? Afraid I'll stage a coup?"
Eloise tells Jack and Kate "Explain to me and you have
my word , I will believe you"
Dr. Chang says "I need to know if he was telling the truth"
Jack says about Eloise"I still trust her
Sayid asks "And that makes you trust her?" |
| S6E3 |
Sayid
tells Jack "I only care about who I trust" and tells
Jack he'll take the pill if Jack wants him to do it
Dogen tells Jack "You just have to trust me and Jack replies
"I don't trust myself how am I supposed to trust you?"
and then just before Jack takes the pill
he says "Let's see where trust gets us?" |
| S6E4 |
FLocke
tells Sawyer "Before I was trapped I was a man, James,
just like you" and Sawyer replies "I have a hard time
believing you" |
| S6E5 |
Claire
says to Justin "All you have to do is tell me the truth",
he replies "I am telling you the truth" |
| S6E6 |
Miles
says "Trust me..." to Sayid |
| S6E7 |
Ilana
says "Trust me, if anyone wants to find him, it's me"
Hurley says "Trust me, it's just around here"
Hurley asks Jack "Dude, you trust that guy?"
Richard says "trust me" |
| S6E8 |
Miles
tells Sawyer "You know you can tell me the truth about
anything? and Sawyer responds "Why the hell would I lie?"
FLocke says to Sawyer "Tell them whatever you need to tell
them to gain their trust"
Charlotte says "Tell me the truth"
Miles tells Sawyer "We're supposed to trust each other"
Sawyer tells Zoe "Trust me... God's got nothing to do with
it"
Widmore asks Sawyer "How do I know I can trust you?"
and Sawyer replies "Same way I know I can trust you"
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| S6E10 |
Sun
writes "I
don't trust him" about FLocke and when Jack says "Do
you trust me?" she takes Jack's hand |
| S6E11 |
Widmore
says "..if everything I've been told about you is true,
you'll be perfectly fine"
Widmore says "I want someone that I can trust to do the
job right"
Charlie tells Desmond "Trust me,
you didn't"
and "I've seen the truth". Desmond replies "No,
that's not the truth. You want to know the real truth?" |
| S6E12 |
Hurley asks Michael "Why should I trust you? You murdered
Libby and Ana Lucia"
Ilana tells Hurley "You have to trust me,. I've been training
my whole life for this", Hurley then asks "To blow
stuff up?" and she replies to protect you"
Hurley tells Jack "Trust me"
Desmond asks Hurley if he believes Libby and Hurley answers
"Yeah. Kinda..."
Jack says "Hurley, you asked me to trust you. This is me
trusting you"
FLocke asks Desmond "You're out here in the middle of the
jungle, with me, not a person on earth even knows you're here.
Why aren't you afraid?" and Desmond responds "What's
the point in being afraid?"
Hurley
says to FLocke"There are other people with me. The thing
is... you got weapons and we got weapons, and I don't want anyone
to get hurt... or killed. So we're not gonna do anything. I
want your word that you're not gonna do anything either"
and FLocke replies "You have my word" |
| S6E13 |
Kate
asks Jack about FLocke "Do you believe him?" and Jack
replies "I'm not sure yet"
Jack
says to Claire "So you trust him?" and she replies
"Yeah"
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| Earning
Adaptability |
| S1E21 |
Locke
asks "Does that earn me any trust?" and Sayid replies
"That will earn you adaptability" |
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| Earning
Good Will |
| S2E16 |
Henry
says "I guess I earned myself some good will for finally
drawing that map for Ana" |
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| Earning
Time/ Using Up Time |
| S1E2 |
Sayid
says "I need some time" |
| S1E4 |
Boone
asks Jack "Hey doc, got a second" |
| S2E18 |
Locke
says "I earned 5 minutes with him" |
| S3E16 |
Jack
tells Juliet about Sayid "He'll come around, just give
him some time"
Jack tells the LOSTies "'Give her some time, she's afraid"
Juliet tells Sawyer "We don't have time for this"
and Sawyer replies "We cleared our schedules, we got all
the time in the world"
Jack says "Just give us a couple of minutes here?"
Richard Alpert tells Juliet "You're going to be amazed
at how time flies once you're there" |
| S3E19 |
Cooper
says to Ben/Fake Henry "You're wasting your time bug-eye" |
| S3E22 |
Ben/Fake
Henry says to Jack "Just a moment of your time to talk,
you and me" and "Jack, you've just killed 7 of my
people, the least you can give me is 5 minutes of your time"
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| S4E2 |
Dan
asks Jack & Kate "Would you give me just one second?"
Sawyer tells Ben "You're wasting your time, Yoda" |
| S4E4 |
Miles
tells Kate "What I want is exactly 1 minute of someone's
time"
Kate tells Miles "You got one minute"
Miles tells Ben "And you know he's put a lot of time and
energy into finding you.
Diane Jansen tells Kate "My doctor's have given me 6 mths
to live for the last 4 years"
Charlotte says "Time. Okay tell me what you remember"
as she times Miles during the memory
test
The lawyer asks "If you think that the jury is going to
give her actual time.."
Kate gets "Time served plus 10 years probation" |
| S4E5 |
Sayid
says to Desmond "I need a minute" |
| S4E6 |
Ben
tells Juliet "Take as much time as you need" when
he shows her Goodwin's dead body |
| S4E8 |
Minkowski
says to Michael "Take your time Captain" |
| S4E9 |
When
Ben tells Sawyer "There's no time", Sawyer responds
"I'll make time"
Jack asks "Bernard, you got a second?" |
| S4E10 |
Sawyer
says "Let's make some time" |
| S4E11 |
Christian
Shephard tells Locke "We don't have time for this" |
| S4E12 |
Ben
tells Locke "I don't have time to repeat this" |
| S4E13 |
Michael says "Either way, at least we'll have a warning
and that will buy us some time"
Desmond says "Give me a minute..." |
| S5E1 |
Daniel
says "...we have no time"
Sawyer says to Daniel "How about we call a time-out so
you can tell me what the hell is going on?" |
| S5E3 |
Locke
tells Sawyer "I'll give you 10 minutes' head start" |
| S5E5 |
Juliet
says "We're running out of time"
Ben tells Sun "30 minutes Sun, we can be there in 30 minutes"
Ben tells Sun "But, we're running out of time" |
| S5E6 |
Desmond
says "This woman cost me 4 years of my life I'll never
get back, because she told me that I was supposed to go to that
island and that is was my bloody purpose" |
| S5E7 |
Charles
Widmore tells Locke "The island needs you John and it has
for a long time" |
| S5E8 |
Phil
says "She shouldn't be here Jerry, we're on the clock"
Sawyer asks Horace "We just saved that woman's life, doesn't
that earn us a week or two to find the rest of our people?"
Amy asks "Can I have a minute please?"
Sawyer says to Juliet "Bought us two weeks"
Sawyer says to Juliet "Just give me two weeks.." and
she replies "Alright, two weeks" |
| S5E9 |
Sawyer
says "We got about 10 minutes to make intake" |
| S5E10 |
Horace
tells Sayid "I'm gonna give you an hour to decide whether
you want to talk to me. But if you decide you don't want to,
then I'm gonna have to take this to the next level"
Sawyer says "I just need more time" and "Why
are we on your clock, Radzinsky?" |
| S5E11 |
Kate
tells Cassidy "All I could think was, it's about time"
|
| S5E14 |
Young
Eloise tells Young Daniel "So, unfortunately, there's
no more time for distractions" and he replies "I can
make time"
Daniel tells Miles "Right on time. Be back in 10 minutes"
Daniel asks Dr. Pierre Chang, "Do you have a second sir?"
Sawyer says to Juliet "Time to go"
Daniel tells Richard "I'm gonna give you three seconds" |
| S5E15 |
Daniel
tells Richard "I'm gonna give you three seconds"
Locke
tells Richard "You and I have an errand to run and
we don't have a lot of time"
Eloise says to Richard "Would you mind giving us a moment?" |
| S5E16 |
Sayid
says about Daniel Faraday "...he was very explicit about
his time table"
Sayid says "Time is short, let's go"
Locke says "Everybody take five"
Sawyer tells Jack "I need five minutes, You owe me that"
and Jack replies "5 minutes" |
| S6E1 |
Jacob
says "Hello Hugo, you got a minute?"
Jin says "I don't have time for this..." |
| S6E3 |
Jack
asks "Mind giving me and Sayid a minute?" |
| S6E4 |
Sawyer
yells "You got about 20 seconds and then I'm out of here" |
| S6E5 |
Hurley
wants to rush back to the Temple when Jacob tells him that "Someone
bad" is going there. Jacob tells Hurley "I'm sorry
it's too late" |
| S6E6 |
Lennon
tells Kate "You have 2 minutes"
Ben tells Sayid that "there's still time" to get away
from the smoke monster and Sayid responds "Not for me" |
| S6E7 |
Ben
asks Arzt "Do you have a minute?"
Principal Reynolds tells Ben "I don't have time..." |
| S6E8 |
FLocke
says "I'll deal with you in a minute" |
| S6E9 |
Richard
says "Maybe it's time to start listening to someone else"
Ben says "Going after him is a waste of time"
Father Suarez refuses Richard absolution and says "You
don't have time" to do penance
Jonas Whitfield tells Richard "If I freed you it would
only be a matter of time before you tried to kill me" |
| S6E11
|
Zoe
tells Jin "... com'on, no time for sight seeing
Zoe says to Seamus "What's your time frame?"
Desmond says "No I don't have time for this"
Eloise says "Well it's about time" |
| S6E12 |
Richard
says "There's no time to talk" |
| S6E13 |
Sawyer
says to Schaub "Wanna give us a minute?"
Zoe tells FLocke he has until nightfall to return Desmond
FLocke asks Sayid "got a minute?"
Miles asks Nadia "You have a few minutes?"
Jack says "There's no time"
Sayid says "I need a moment"
Sawyer says "Wait a damn minute" |
| |
|
| Earning
Points or Redemption for Saying You're Sorry or Thanking Them
(manners apparently count) |
| S1E1 |
Jack
says "Thank you" to Kate for sewing him up |
| S1E1 |
Michael
says "I'm sorry" to Sun |
| S1E2 |
Hurley
tells Jin "No, thank you" |
| S1E4 |
Claire
thanks Sawyer for finding documents belonging to the dead
Kate says 'I'm sorry " to Sayid about the broken antenna |
| S1E7 |
Kate
says "Sorry Sayid, some things just happen"
Charlie says "Thanks guys" before entering the cave
Jack thanks Kate when she brings him the sling for his arm |
| S2E19 |
Rose
apologizes to Bernard for lying to him |
| S2E20 |
Christian
Shephard says "I'm here because I can't apologize to my
son" |
| S2E21 |
Hurley
says to Libby "I'm sorry I forgot the blankets" |
| S3E1 |
Jack
says "Sarah, I'm sorry for pushing us to this place" |
| S3E2 |
Jae
Lee says "I'm sorry" four times to Jin
Sayid apologizes "I'm sorry I dragged you into this. Please
communicate to your husband, the next time, I will listen to
him" |
| S3E5 |
Juliet
apologizes to Jack "I felt like I should apologize, say
I'm sorry" |
| S3E6 |
Kevin
says to Kate "Yeah, you're right. I've made a huge mistake.
I am just full of regret right now"
Kate says to Jack "I'm sorry. I'm so sorry, but she said
that if you do it and if you do it soon, they're gonna let us
go" |
| S3E7 |
Juliet
says "I'm sorry Alex" when she has to stay behind |
| S3E8 |
Claire
tells Desmond "Sorry... well anyway, I just want to say
...thank you ... thank you very much for being there"
Charlie thanks Desmond for saving Claire and says "I'm
sorry I wasn't more grateful" |
| S3E10 |
Sawyer
teaches Jin to say "I'm sorry"
Kate tells Sawyer "You know all you have to do is say you're
sorry. We could start again, give each other a clean slate"
and Sawyer replies "I ain't got nothing to be sorry for"
Madam , the Psychic says "I'm sorry" |
| S3E11 |
Amira
says she forgives Nadia when he bites her "...because sometimes
he forgets that he is safe now" and "So today ...I
ask only one thing of you. I ask you now that you show me the
respect of acknowledging what you did to me. That it was you
who questioned me. That tortured me. And that you remember me"
and Sayid replies "I remember you. I remember your face.
Your face has haunted me ever since I left Iraq. I am sorry.
I am so sorry for what I did to you. I'm ...so ...sorry.
Amira then replies "I forgive you" and tells him that
she will lie to her husband so he will release Sayid. |
| S3E11 |
Hurley
says to Sawyer "Sorry I beat you so bad, dude" |
| S3E12 |
Charlie
says "Sorry" to Claire when he is telling her about
breakfast and when he decides not to participate in catching
the seagulls
Officer Barnes says "Sorry to hear that" when she
tells him that her father is dead
Desmond says "I'm sorry" to Claire for scaring off
the seagulls
Locke says "Sorry" after he pushes Mikhail Bakunin/Patchy
into the Perimeter
Fence and he
supposedly dies"
Claire tells Charlie "I'm sorry I bothered you with my
stupid ideas"
Christian Shephard says to "Claire "I'm very sorry"
about Carole Littleton's condition
Claire repeatedly tells her mother that she is sorry for the
accident and for being an awful daughter |
| S3E13 |
Locke
says to Peter Talbot "I'm sorry. I can't help you."
Locke says "I'm sorry, Jack" for blowing up the Galaga
Ben/Fake Henry tells Locke "I ate most of the dark meat.
Sorry." |
| S3E14 |
Charlie
apologizes to Sun for kidnapping her and says "I'm sorry"
as she is walking away
Paolo tells Nikki "I'm sorry" and Nikki replies "You're
only sorry because you got caught" and Paolo says "I
was afraid of losing you, if you found the diamonds you wouldn't
need me anymore"
LaShade says "Sorry" to Corvette just before he shoots
her |
| S3E15 |
Locke
tells Kate "I'm sorry" as he is leaving the game room
Sawyer apologizes to Hurley "I am really sorry I called
you rotund"
Kate says "I'm sorry" to Juliet for dislocating her
shoulder and to Jack for not listening to him
Kate tells her mother "I'm not sorry" about killing
her step-father |
| S316 |
Juliet
tells Ben/Fake Henry that she is sorry she couldn't help with
the pregnancy problems
Ben tells Juliet "I'm sorry I didn't tell you sooner. I
just didn't see what good it would do" |
| S3E17 |
In
one of his flashes, Desmond says to Charlie "I'm sorry
mate"
Desmond says "Forgive me brother"
Derek says "Sorry" to Brother Campbell after he punches
Desmond
Charlie says "Sorry" to Desmond when Desmond tells
him the story about Penny
Desmond tells Brother Campbell "I'm sorry for the wine.
I'll take a penance"
Desmond says "I'm sorry Penny. I'm sorry" |
| S3E18 |
Sun
says to Jin "It's nothing. I'm sorry" after she questions
him about his father's death
Mikhail Bakunin/Patchy says "I'm sorry"
Sun says "I'm sorry, I forgot" to Jin for forgetting
to get the mail
Juliet tells Sun that the baby was conceived on the island and
says "I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry, I will do everything
that I can" |
| S3E19 |
Ben/Fake
Henry announces
to the Others "I'm sorry. He's not who we thought he was" |
| S3E20 |
Opal
says "I'm sorry" to Roger Linus when he is unhappy
with his work assignment
Roger Linus says "It's your birthday, sorry I forgot"
Ben/Fake Henry tells Locke "I'm sorry you feel that way
and I'm sorry that you're too limited to see"
Naomi says "I'm sorry. Don't you people want to be rescued?"
|
| S3E21 |
Juliet
says "Sun, I'm sorry that I lied to you"
Desmond tells Charlie "I'm sorry brother, this time you
have to die"
Sawyer says to Karl "Sorry you came all this way for nothing,
but we already know about it" |
| S3E22 |
The
Stewardess tells Jack that he can't have another drink "I'm
sorry sir, we'll be landing in 20 minutes"
The new Chief of Surgery introduces himself to Jack "I'm
sorry, I'm Dr. Hamil, Rob"
Mikhail Bakunin/Patchy says "I'm sorry, but I too am following
orders" when he shoots Greta
and Bonnie
The Pharmacist says to Jack "I'm sorry sir, there are no
more refills left on this prescription" |
| S4E1
|
When
Big Mike asks Hurley if he knew Ana Lucia, Hurley lies and tells
him "Sorry, I never met her"
When Big Mike threatens Hurley with tossing him into the "nut
house", Hurley replies "You can, oh thank you, thank
you, thank you."
Desmond says to Hurley "I'm sorry brother" about Charlie's
death
Sawyer says to Hurley "I'm sorry he's dead"
Naomi tells Minkowski she's sorry
Hurley tells Sawyer "I'm sorry, I was just um.. I got lost"
Hurley tells Jack "I'm sorry, I'm sorry I went with Locke.
I should have stayed with you." |
| S4E2 |
One
of the male voices of the ROV operators says "Sorry, Ron"
Mrs. Gardner says "Thank you" to Miles and hugs him
Jack say s"Thank you" to Juliet
Locke tells Charlotte "I'm sorry you got shot" |
| S4E3 |
Sayid
says "Thank you, but no, my ball is right here"
Hurley tells Sayid "Sorry, Dude" and Danielle says
"Sorry, Sayid" when Sayid is taken prisoner
Locke tells Sayid "I'm sorry about all the theatrics"
Sayid says "Forgive me, but the day I start trusting him
is the day I would have sold my soul" |
| S4E4 |
Kate's
lawyer tells Kate "Sorry"
Kate tells Hurley "Sorry" after she cons him into
giving her the tray for Miles
Kate thanks Jack for "...saying what you did in there" |
| S4E5 |
Desmond
says "Sorry" to the soldier next to him for having
to do exercises in the rain
and mud
The soldier that deliberately bumps into Desmond says "Thanks
for this morning Hume"
The guard at the auction says "I'm sorry" Desmond
Desmond tells Penny "I'm sorry"
Sayid tells Desmond "I'm sorry, the power source went
dead" and Desmond says "Thank you, Sayid" |
| S4E6 |
Harper
says "Sorry, I'm late" to Juliet
Juliet thanks Sun for helping with her shelter
Goodwin tells Juliet "Much obliged"
Juliet tells Goodwin "I'm sorry"
Juliet says "Thank you" to Jack when he agrees to
help her
Juliet says "I'm sorry" to Harper when harper says
"...you look just like her"
Jack thanks Juliet when she says she'll get Kate some water
Ben cons Locke by saying "I'm sorry I didn't tell you
all this sooner"
Kate tells Jack "I'm sorry" when she doesn't hear
his question
Ben thanks Juliet for being wonderful to Zack and Emma
Daniel says "I'm so sorry to Juliet"
Ben tells Juliet "I'm sorry Juliet" when he brings
her to Goodwin's body |
| S4E7 |
Frank
tells Desmond and Sayid "Sorry, we had a little problem
in the kitchen"
Sun thanks Daniel after she questions him about rescue
Jin thanks Jack for complementing his English
Sun thanks Jack for asking how she is feeling
Juliet apologizes to Sun for telling Jin about her affair with
Jae Lee "I'm sorry, I had to stop you anyway I could" |
| S4E8 |
Locke
says "Thank you all for your patience"
Sawyer says about Michael "I'm
sorry. You mean the same guy who killed two women in cold
blood and set this little bastard free?"
Michael says "I'm sorry" just before he crashes
the car into the cargo container
Michael says "Sorry" to Lapidus when he asks Michael
"So what's your story, Kevin?"
Ben tells Michael "I'm so sorry Michael, he's still in
NY" |
| S4E9 |
Sawyer
says "Sorry" to Hurley during the game of Risk
Locke says to Ben "Sorry about your daughter" and
Ben replies "Thank you, John"
Locke says "I'm sorry Hugo, we need you to find the cabin"
|
| S4E10 |
Daniel
says "Thank you" to Juliet when she agrees to let
Daniel and Charlotte go with Sun and Jin
Juliet says "Good. Thanks" when Kate tells her they
are prepared for the operation
Bernard says to Jack "I'm sorry Jack, but I agree"
about using the chloroform to knock him out
Dr. Erika Stevenson says "Thank you for keeping us safe"
when Jack tells her about the battery in the smoke alarm
Jack thanks Erika for the prescription for clonazapam
Bernard tells Kate about Juliet and the operation "She
did good" and Kate says "Thank you"
Juliet says she is sorry to Kate for yelling at her
Kate tells Juliet "Thank you for saving his life" |
| S4E11 |
The
ER nurse tells Emily Locke she can't hold the baby "I'm
sorry sweetheart, he's just too little"
Emily Locke says "I'm sorry, I can't do this"
Keamy says "Thank you" to Captain Gault when he takes
the key from him
Locke tells Ben "I'm sorry those things happened to you"
Keamy says "Sorry doc" just before he slits his throat
and says "Thanks captain" after he kills Gault |
| S4E12
|
Sawyer
says to Jack, "I'm sorry Doc, maybe this is Deja Vu"
Kate tells Hurley "Jack is running late, sorry"
Carole Littleton tells Jack "I'm sorry for your loss"
and Jack says "Thank you"
Kate says "Thank you" when Carole Littleton says
"Your son is beautiful"
Locke says "I'm sorry Ben, but maybe I missed the part
about what I'm supposed to do about the armed men inside" |
| S4E13 |
Jack
says "I'm sorry" to Kate at the gate near the airport
Ben says "Thank you for coming Richard"
Mrs. Dawson thanks the nurse for bringing her to Hurley
Hurley says to Mrs. Dawson "I'm sorry, do I know you?"
Hurley tells Walt "I'm sorry" about none of the
Oceanic 6 coming to see him
Hurley says "Thanks for coming back for me" to Sawyer
Juliet offers to help get the next group together for Daniel
to ferry to the Kahana and he say s"Thank you",
she then says"Dan, thanks for helping us"
Charlotte says "Sorry" Miles
Jin says "Thank you Michael"
Ben tells Locke "Sorry I made your life so miserable"
Kate says "I'm sorry" to Aaron
Ben says "Sorry" to Jack at the funeral home |
| S5E1 |
Daniel
says it to Dr. Pierre Chang when he bumps into him under the
Orchid
Ben tells Jack about Locke "I told him I was sorry for
making his life so miserable'
Daniel says"Okay, thanks" after he asks the group
going to the Sawn Hatch to "pick up the pace" |
| S5E2
|
Jack
apologizes to Penny for dragging her into the lie
Sayid says "I'm sorry Hurley, but we have to lie"
Hurley says "Sorry" to Darlene
jack says "Thank you" to ben for flushing his pills
down the toilet
Sun Thanks Kate for saying Ji Yeon is beautiful
Kate tells Sun "I'm sorry. I'm so sorry" about Jin
not getting off the Kahana in time
Sawyer tells Juliet "...sorry if my plan..."
Richard "Sorry, am I interrupting?"
Desmond says "I'm sorry" to Abigail Spencer and
the "I'm sorry who?" when she mentions Charles Widmore
Desmond says "Thanks to Abigail
Melanie
says "I'm sorry" to Widmore
Desmond tells Widmore "Thanks for the advice" |
| S5E4 |
Kate
thanks Sun for loaning her the suit "Thank you for the
loaner"
Daniel thanks Miles for bringing the water for Charlotte
Sun thanks the bellman
for bringing the package
Dan Norton says "Thank you for waiting" to Kate
Sayid says to Tony "Sorry, I think you have the wrong
room"
Kate says "I'm sorry" on the phone to jack
Sayid says "Sorry Ben"
Sawyer yells "Thank you, Lord" when the flash saves
them from the people in the second outrigger shooting at them
Ben thanks Dan Norton for the "good news" about
Hurley
Ben tells Kate "Sorry" about coming after Aaron
Danielle says "Merci" to Robert for bringing the
water to Jin and Jin says "Thank you" |
| S5E5 |
Jack
says "Sun, I'm sorry" and when Sun asks him "Sorry
for what?" he replies "For leaving Jin behind"
Ben tells Jack and Sun "If you had any idea what I've done
to keep you safe, to keep your friends safe...you'd never stop
thanking me"
Juliet says "Thank God" when they find the Orchid
Juliet says "...thank you" to Locke
Christian Shepard tells Locke "No, sorry. I can't"
when Locke asks for help getting up
Ben says "I'm sorry I had to bring you here before I gave
it to you Sun" |
| S5E6
|
Mrs.
Hawking tells Desmond "I'm sorry to have to tell you this
Desmond, but the island isn't done with you yet"
Kate says "Thank you" when Jack agrees not to ask
any more questions about Aaron
Jill says "Sorry" to Jack
Nabil,
the ticket agent, says "Thank you for flying Ajira Air"
to Jack
Caesar says
"My condolences, I'm sorry you lost your friend"
Jack says" Thank you" to Caesar
Rupa
Krishnavani the stewardess says "thank you sir"
to Jack
Ben says "Thank you for not closing it" to Rupa |
| S5E7 |
Locke
says "Much obliged" when Ilana gives him the mango
When Locke says 'I think this is what they were going to bury
me in", Ilana says "Sorry?"
Locke says "I'm sorry" when Sayid tells him about
Nadia being murdered
Hurley tells Locke 'Sorry dude, I don't think that's gonna happen.
Jack's a doctor now, Sun's like got her baby, and Kate has Aaron"
Abaddon says "I'm sorry, Mr. Locke' about Helen being dead
Locke says "Thank you" to ben just before ben strangles
him |
| S5E8 |
Juliet
says "I'm sorry" to Daniel about Charlotte
Sawyer tells Juliet "Thanks for getting my back"
Miles says "Yeah, thanks anyway there Plato" to Daniel
Amy says "We're sorry, we're sorry" to the Others
Richard says to Sawyer "I'm sorry, do we know each other?"
Sawyer says "I'm sorry" to Amy
Horace says "Nah, I've got it, thanks"
Juliet says to Sawyer "Thank you for believing in me" |
| S5E9 |
Juliet
tells Amy "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to wake you"
Ben says "I'm sorry Sun but waiting doesn't interest me
much"
Chang says "Sorry, Namaste, I'm Pierre Chang
Lapidus tells Sun "I'm sorry but I don't think we're gonna
find your husband here"
Sayid thanks Young Ben for bringing him the sandwich |
| S5E10 |
Sayid
says 'Thank you"to Young Ben for the book and the sandwich
Sayid says "Thank you when Horace cuts off the handcuffs"
Sawyer says "I'm sorry Sayid" just before he punches
him in the face
Ben says "Well then, I apologize."
Sayid says "I'm sorry to hear that" |
| S5E11 |
Roger
Linus says "Thanks, Jim" to Sawyer
Debra the nurse says "I'm sorry, Juliet"
Roger says "Thanks" to Kate
when she figures out a way for him to stay near Young Ben by
watching Kate so she doesn't pass out
Kate says "Sorry?" when she doesn't understand what
Roger just said to her
Kate says "Sorry" to Roger when he tells her that
Emily Linus died the day Ben was born
Roger tells Juliet "I want to say thanks. I know that you're
doing everything you can to save him"
Kate says "Thank you, thank you very much" when Aaron
is found
Young
Ben says to Kate "Tell my dad I'm sorry I stole his
keys"
Jack says "I'm sorry?" when he doesn't understand
Juliet's comment
Kate says "I'm sorry" to Carole Littleton |
| S5E12 |
Caesar
and two survivors of Flight 316 come up to Ben and Locke
as they are uncovering the outrigger and Caesar says "I'm
sorry, but I'm calling the shots here and I say that you are
not taking anything"
When Ben shoots Caesar he says to Locke "Consider that
my apology" for having killed Locke
Charles Widmore says "I'm sorry, is that a baby?"
Lapidus tells Sun "I'm sorry to say, but I'm leaving with
or without you"
Ben says "I need to ask a favor of you Sun. If you ever
get off this island, find Desmond Hume for me and tell him that
I said I was sorry", when Sun asks "Sorry for what?"
he replies "He'll know"
Ben says "I'm so sorry. It was all my fault" to Alex
(Smoke Monster) |
| S5E13 |
Miles
tells his mother "I'm sorry that I couldn't make it by
sooner"
Kate says "Thank you" to Juliet for sending Sawyer
with her
Howard Gray says "Thank you" to Miles and Miles replies
"I'm sorry for your loss"
Bram says "Sorry about that, but your apartment is being
watched" when he kidnaps Miles off the street
Sawyer says to Jack"Thanks for filling me in Doc"
Howard Gray says "Sorry?" to Miles
Hurley says to Miles "Sorry I said you were afraid to talk
to your dad, dude" |
| S5E14 |
Daniel
says "Sorry sir, won't happen again" when he bumps
into Dr. Pierre Chang
Miles says to Dr. Chang about Daniel "Sorry sir, I think
he had too many drugs on the sub"
Daniel
says to Charles Widmore "I'm sorry sir, I don't... Did
Caroline tell you? I have a condition that affects my memory"
And "I meant to thank you before I ... before I left Oxford"
Jack says "Thank you to Juliet for giving them the code
to the key pad on the sonic fence |
| S5E15 |
Hurley
says "Sorry " to Miles and Jin when he can't answer
Pierre CHang's questions
Hurley says "Sorry " to Miles as they watch Lara
and Pierre Chang argue about leaving the island |
| S5E16 |
The
man in the dark shirt says to Jacob "Thank you, I just
ate"
Young Kate says "Thanks mister" to Jacob and he replies
"You're welcome"
Sawyer says "I'm sorry, I'm gonna pass"
Young Sawyer says "Yeah , thanks" to Jacob when he
gives him a pen
Jacob tells Young Sawyer "I'm very sorry about your mother
and father"
Jacob says to Sayid "I'm sorry, I think I'm lost"
Kate says "Thank you" to Juliet
Sawyer tell so Rose and Bernard "I'm sorry y'all got left
behind"
Jacob says to Ilana "I'm sorry I couldn't make it sooner"
Jacob tells Locke "I'm sorry this happened to you"
Jack says "No thanks" to Sawyer
Hurley says "Oh sorry" when he sees Jacob in the cab |
| S6E1 |
Seth
Norris, the pilot says "Sorry about the bumpy ride..."
Desmond says "I'm sorry mate, is this your seat?"
Desmond says "Thanks brotha" to Jack
Jack tells Sawyer "I'm sorry.... I thought we were supposed
to..."
Kate says "I'm sorry " when she bumps into Jack
Sawyer says "Sorry. My bad" when he bumps into the
Marshall
Ben says to Ilana "I'm sorry, who are you?"
When Jacob tells HUrley he "...died an hour ago",
Hurley says "Sorry dude. That sucks"
FLocke tells Ben "I'm sorry you had to see me like that"
The Oceanic
employee says "sorry to Jack twice as he tells him
that they have lost Christian's coffin
Sawyer says "Sorry" as he holds back the TSA agents
on the elevator so Kate can escape and she says "Thanks"
Kate says "I'm so sorry" to Sawyer
Locke tells Jack that he is "sorry" when he hears
that Oceanic lost Christian's coffin and says "Thanks "
to Jack when he holds the door open for him |
| S6E3 |
Sayid
says "Thank you Jack...for saving my life"
Kate says "Thanks" to the mechanic that removes her
handcuffs
Lennon tells Sayid "I'm sorry we had to put you through
that. It was a test"
Aldo says "I'm sorry , is this a press conference?"
Kate thanks Justin for stopping her from walking into the trap
Mrs. Baskin says "Oh my god....I am so sorry..."
Kate says "I'm sorry" to Sawyer twice |
| S6E4 |
Locke
says:"I'm sorry" and "I know I shouldn't have
lied" to Randy
FLocke says "Richard I'm sorry I hit you in the throat
and dragged you off the beach..."
FLocke asks Richard about Jacob "I'm sorry... you mean
you've been doing everything he told you all this time and he
never said why?"
Hurley says to Locke "I'm sorry" and "I'm really
sorry. They were supposed to reserve a spot for me"
Locke says "Thank you" to Rose and "I'm sorry"
when she tells him she has terminal cancer
Ben says "John Locke was a... a believer, he was a man
of faith, he was... a much better man than I will ever be. And
I'm very sorry I murdered him"
Helen says "thanks" to the delivery man from Oceanic
bringing Locke's hard
sided case that is filled with knives
Locke says "Thanks " to the kid who told him where
the teachers lounge was |
| S6E5 |
Twice, Jack tells David that he is sorry he is late
Jack says "No, no, no thanks" to Margo
Claire tells Jin "I'm really sorry you got stuck in my
trap"
Hurley says sorry to Jack for "...wrecking your game with
Kate" and "dude, I'm sorry"
One of the judges says "Thank you" to David
Jacob says "I'm sorry it's too late" about the "Someone
bad" going to the Temple
Claire tells Jin "Thank you" when Jin lies to her
about where Aaron is |
| S6E6 |
Sam
says "Thanks these are awesome" and Sayid says you're
welcome"
Sayid says "No, thank you" to Keamy's offer to cook
him eggs |
| S6E7 |
Ben
sarcastically says "I'm fine, thank you" to Ilana
Ilana thanks Miles for telling her that Ben killed Jacob
Ben says "Oh I'm sorry. I should've put a note on the door"
Alex thanks Ben for offering to tutor her
Ben tells Ilana he is sorry for killing Jacob |
| S6E8 |
FLocke
tells Sawyer "I wish you hadn't interrupted me", Sawyer
replies "I'm sorry, I forgot my manners" and FLocke
answers "I forgive you"
Charlotte says "Thank you" to the waiter
Charlotte says "Thanks" when Sawyer tells her why
he became a cop "I got to a point in my life where I was
either gonna become a criminal or a cop. So I chose cop"
Sawyer tells Liam "Sorry, not my department"
FLocke tells Kate "I'm sorry. I have to take responsibility
for Claire's behavior." and "I'm sorry that this happened"
Charles Widmore says "Thanks" to Zoe
Claire says "thanks" and sorry several times to Kate
when she is apologizing
to Kate and hugging her
Widmore asks Sawyer "How do I know I can trust you?"
and Sawyer replies "Same way I know I can trust you" |
| S6E9 |
Jacob
tells Ilana "I'm sorry I couldn't make it sooner"
Hurley says"Sorry, Jack, but this has nothing to do with
you"
Richard says "Thank you, sir" to the doctor
Richard tells Father Suarez "I am truly sorry"
Jonas Whitfield says "Thank you, Father"
Richard says "Thank you" to Esau/MIB" |
| S6E10 |
The
customs agent says "I'm sorry. Federal law says we have
to confiscate the $25,000
The hotel
clerk says "I'm sorry. I apologize..."
FLocke tells Sun "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to startle you"
Ben says "I'm sorry, what?" to Sun
Zoe says "Sorry" after she tasers Jin
Keamy says "Thank you for the watch..."
Jin says "Thank you" to Keamy
Keamy says "I'm sorry. Some people just aren't meant to
be together"
Widmore says ""...my deepest apologies" to Jin
Sun writes "Sorry" with a happy face next to it on
the note pad |
| S6E11 |
Widmore
says "I'm really sorry for taking you away from them..."
Desmond says "I'm sorry?" to Hurley
Claire says "Thank you so much" to Desmond
Claire says "No, that's it, thank God"
Desmond says "Thank you" to George Minkowski twice
Desmond says "Thank you" to Widmore's secretary twice
Widmore says "Sorry Desmond, Looks like our celebration
of the Australian deal is going to have to be cut short. You
are aware that my son is a musician?"
Nurse says "Sorry sir" to Desmond
Desmond tells Eloise "I'm deeply sorry"
Eloise says "Thank you so much, Mr. Hume"
Desmond says "I'm sorry, did you just say Penny?"
Widmore tells Desmond "I'm really sorry" |
| S6E12 |
Ilana
tells Hurley "I'm sorry" when he tells her about Libby
being murdered
Dr. Brooks says "I apologize for the intrusion"
Desmond says to Hurley "I'm sorry, have I seen you before?"
FLocke tells Desmond "I'm sorry Sayid tied you up but he
was afraid you would run before we had a chance to talk"
Dr. Brooks says "I'm sorry" to Hurley
Hurley tells Libby "I'm sorry"
Miles says "Sorry" to Hurley
Jack says "Sorry" to Richard
Hurley says "Thanks" to Michael
Michael asks Hurley to tell Libby he is "very sorry" |
| S6E13 |
Jack
says to Claire "I'm so sorry.."
Sawyer says "Sorry, duty calls"
FLocke says I'm sorry" to Zoe
Desmond says "I'm sorry" to Claire
Claire thanks Desmond and he says "You're welcome"
ILana says "I'm sorry.." to Claire
Jack says "Thank"s to David's mother
Jacks tells Sawyer "I'm sorry that I got Juliet killed"
Jack says "I'm so sorry , there's been an emergency at
the hospital" |
| |
|
| Forgiving
Someone (Letting Them Off the Hook) |
| S1E4 |
Rose
says to Jack "I'm going to let you off the hook" |
| S1E16 |
Locke
says to Kate that his step-mother "Thought that Jeanie
came back to tell her the accident wasn't her fault.. let her
off the hook." |
| S1E20 |
Boone
says to Jack "I'm going to let you off the hook" |
| S2E17 |
Locke
says to Anthony Cooper's coffin "I forgive you" |
| S2E21 |
Eko
says to Yemi "Forgive me" and "You must help
John, he has lost his way" |
| S3E11 |
Mikhail
Bakunin/Patchy says to Sayid "Perhaps I can earn your forgiveness
by offering some iced tea."
Amira says she forgives Nadia when he bites her "...because
sometimes he forgets that he is safe now" and "So
today ...I ask only one thing of you. I ask you now that you
show me the respect of acknowledging what you did to me. That
it was you who questioned me. That tortured me. And that you
remember me" and Sayid replies "I remember you. I
remember your face. Your face has haunted me ever since I left
Iraq. I am sorry. I am so sorry for what I did to you. I'm ...so
...sorry.
Amira then replies "I forgive you" and tells him that
she will lie to her husband so he will release Sayid. |
| S3E17 |
Desmond
says to Brother Campbell "Forgive me Brother" |
| S3E22 |
Jack
says "Forgive me"as he prepares to jump off the bridge |
| S4E3
|
Sayid
says "Forgive me, but the day I start trusting him is the
day I would have sold my soul" |
| S4E7 |
Jin
says to Sun "So
I forgive you" and Sun thanks him for promising to
protect her and the baby |
| S6E7 |
Ben
tells Ilana "I can never expect you to forgive me ...because
I can't forgive myself" |
| S6E8 |
FLocke
tells Sawyer "I wish you hadn't interrupted me", Sawyer
replies "I'm sorry, I forgot my manners" and FLocke
answers "I forgive you" |
| S6E9 |
Richard
says to the doctor "Forgive me, but I couldn't wait"
Richard gives his confession to Father Suarez, "Forgive
me father for I have sinned..."
Father Suarez refuses Richard absolution and says "You
don't have time" to do penance |
| S6E10 |
Ben
says to Ilana "You'll forgive my skepticism..." |
| S6E12 |
Dr.
Brooks says "Forgive us" to Hurley |
| |
|
| Additionally,
points are probably awarded for finding specific items such
as : |
| |
| Locating
Weapons |
| S1E12 |
Kate
& Sawyer find the gun case |
| S2E3 |
Kate
finds the armory in the Swan Hatch |
| S2E7
|
Ana
Lucia finds the army knife on a dead Other |
| S3E6 |
Alex
uses a homemade sling shot
Jack finds the guns in the Hydra |
| S3E7 |
Alex
uses a slingshot to rescue Sawyer & Kate
Sawyer gets a gun away from Danny Pickett |
| S3E11 |
Kate
finds the ammunition |
| S3E12 |
Sayid
finds the C4
hidden in Locke's backpack and Locke says "You never
know when a little C4 might come in handy" |
| S3E14 |
Nikki
discovers that the Medusa
Spider can be used as a weapon against Paolo |
| S3E15 |
Although
Sayid says that the Others took everything and that he couldn't
find any weapons, he is carrying something new in his backpack
that has a large handle and looks like it could be a weapon
(it turns out to be a machete) |
| S3E22 |
Locke
finds
a gun in the ditch with the Dharma skeletons
Desmond finds the spear gun in the locker
that he uses to shoot Mikhail
Bakunin/Patchy
Sawyer finds
a gun in the sand
Juliet finds
a gun in the sand |
| S4E2 |
Jack
finds the gun tucked in the back
of Dan's pants |
| S4E13 |
Sayid
finds Keamy's knife |
| S5E7 |
Caesar
finds a gun
in the Hydra office |
| S5E12 |
Jed
tells Lapidus that Ilana and three of the others "found
guns" |
| S5E14 |
Jack
and Kate find the guns in the locker at the Motor Pool |
| S6E4 |
FLocke
finds the machete |
| S6E6 |
Kate
picks up a gun as she is leaving the Temple |
| S6E7 |
Ben
finds the rifle FLocke left for him |
| |
| |
| Finding
the Dharma Hatches and Stations |
| S1E9 |
Sayid
finds Danielle's bunker |
| S1E11 |
Locke
and Boone find the Swan Hatch (Station 3) |
| S2E6 |
The
Tailies find the Arrow Station. They also find the radio, the
glass eye, a blanket and the bible with the piece of film in
it. |
| S2E15 |
Claire
finds the medical station
Kate finds the disguises |
| S2E21 |
Eko
and Locke find the Pearl Hatch (Station 5)
Eko finds the notebooks and the Orientation video |
| S2E24 |
Kate
finds the pile of canisters with the notebooks from the hatch
Sayid finds the fake Hatch at the Others' mock campsite |
| S3E1 |
The
Hydra Station was introduced. Perhaps it will be found by some
of the LOSTies in an attempt to rescue Jack, Kate and Sawyer. |
| S3E5 |
Another
station is seen in the monitors at the Pearl Station and a man
with an eye patch is seen in it (Mikhail Bakunin/Patchy) |
| S3E7 |
Alex
takes Sawyer & Kate to the Hydra facility where Karl is
being held |
| S3E11 |
Sayid
finds the Flame
Hatch |
| S3E11 |
Locke
finds the instruction
video for the Flame Hatch while playing chess |
| S3E14 |
Paolo
and Nikki find the Pearl Hatch |
| S3E22 |
The
LOSTies finally get to the radio tower
Charlie goes to the Looking Glass Hatch |
| S4E6 |
Daniel
and Charlotte find The Tempest
Juliet
finds The Tempest
Kate and Jack find The Tempest |
| S4E10 |
Sun
finds her way back to the Medical Station with Jin, Charlotte
and Daniel and Daniel reports to Juliet that they found everything
on her list of medical supplies |
| S4E11 |
Locke
finds his way back to the pit with the Dharma
skeletons |
| S4E13 |
Jack
& Sawyer find the Orchid (1,
2,
3) |
| S5E1
|
Juliet
finds the Swan
Hatch |
| S5E4 |
Locke
finds the Swan Hatch beam |
| S5E5 |
Locke
finds the
Orchid and then finds
the well |
| S5E7 |
Caesar
finds the Hydra
office |
| S6E1 |
Kate
finds the Swan Hatch |
| S6E8 |
Sawyer
finds the Hydra Station |
| S6E10 |
Sayid
finds his way to the dock |
| S6E13
|
Sawyer
finds his way to bring the Elizabeth to the dock
Jack finds his way to the dock |
| |
| Providing
Food & Water |
| S1E1 |
Kate
gets the pilot some water |
| S1E2 |
Hurley
distributes food |
| S1E4 |
Sawyer
says he found the peanuts in the fuselage
Locke finds a boar |
| S1E5 |
Jack
finds the water and the caves |
| S1
& S2 |
Kate,
Locke and Jin are constantly finding food |
| S1E2 |
Jin
feeds sea urchin to the LOSTies |
| S2E2 |
Kate
finds the pantry in the Swan Hatch |
| S2E4 |
Hurley
distributes the food to the LOSTies |
| S2E8 |
Rose
feeds Jack fruit |
| S2E13 |
Diane
Jensen |
| S2E16 |
Charlie
greets Sayid and Ana Lucia with "Good morning. Who wants
breakfast?" |
| S2E17 |
Kate,
Jack, Charlie, Sayid and Ana Lucia find the food drop |
| S2E19 |
Rose
sets up the pantry on the beach and brings Bernard his supper
|
| S2E20 |
Hurley
packs the picnic from the beach pantry |
|
S2 DVD |
Deleted
scene Ana Lucia serves food |
| S3E1 |
Sawyer
wins the fish biscuit, pellets and water |
| S3E4 |
Juliet
brings Jack food |
|
S3E4 |
Hurley
offers Desmond fruit salad |
| S3E5 |
Juliet
brings Jack a cheeseburger and Jack says "I'm beginning
to think you're just the person who brings me my food" |
| S3E6 |
Kate
asks Sawyer for a fish biscuit |
| S3E8 |
Charlie
and Hurley raid Sawyers stash for food and medicine |
| S3E11 |
Kate
finds the beef
in the refrigerator |
| S3E15 |
Desmond
and Sawyer kill a boar and Sawyer provides
a luau for the LOSTies |
| S4E3 |
Locke
brings Sayid some Iced Tea |
| S3E17 |
Charlie
brings Desmond a can
of food |
| S3E18
|
Hurley
gets
water fro Naomi
Jin brings Sun soup
|
| S3E19 |
Jin
takes the food from Charlie to bring it into the tent to Naomi
|
| S3E22
|
The
Stewardess
on Jack's flight |
| S4E3 |
Locke
brings
iced tea to Sayid |
| S4E4 |
Locke
is a waiter as he brings a tray
of food to Ben. Then he puts the tray down to open the lock
(Guard). Watch as Locke
hands over the tray and suddenly becomes the Hunter
with a knife in his hand.
Hurley
is bringing a tray of food to Miles
Kate carries the tray of food to the boat house
Sawyer gives Kate a
glass of wine |
| S4E5 |
Daniel
gives Charlotte a drink |
| S4E7 |
Sun
tells Jin he needs to find
food for two days
Jin catches
a fish |
| S4E11 |
Hurley
gives Locke a bottle of water |
| S4E12 |
Jack
gives Frank Lapidus a bottle of water |
| S5E1 |
Juliet
finds the Swan Hatch |
| S5E2
|
Miles
brings back a dead boar |
| S5E4 |
Miles
gets water for Charlotte
Sawyer asks "Anybody want a Dharma beer?" |
| S5E5 |
Robert
offers to get Danielle some water
Jin finds
water in a leaf |
| S5E7 |
Ilana
tells Locke about the mango "We found a tree, they're pretty
good"
Charles Widmore gives Locke a glass of water |
| S5E8 |
Juliet
cooks dinner for Sawyer |
| S5E10
|
Hurley
cooks breakfast for Jack & Kate
Juliet is cooking breakfast for Sawyer |
| S5E11 |
Kate
and Sawyer give Young Ben water from a canteen |
| S5E13 |
Hurley
makes sandwiches for the construction workers at the Orchid |
| S5E14 |
Sawyer
and Juliet pack food to take to the beach |
| S5E16
|
Bram
gives Frank some water
Hurley gives Sayid some water |
| S6E3
|
Miles
gives Sayid some water
Dogen serves Jack tea |
| S6E4 |
FLocke
gives Richard some water |
| S6E5 |
Claire
gives Jin some water |
| S6E6 |
Nadia
serves tea |
| S6E7 |
Miles
brings Ben food |
| S6E8 |
Sawyer
brings Jin coffee
Sawyer gives Zoe water |
| S6E9 |
Father
Suarez brings Richard food |
| S6E10 |
Jack
brings Sun a tomato |
| S6E13 |
Sawyer
brings Kate an apple
Lapidus offers the LOSTies on the boat food |
|
| Finding
and Watching Films & Video (May get extra points for watching
them again) |
| S2E1 |
Locke
finds the Swan
Hatch Orientation film behind the books and watches it with
Jack. Locke wants to watch it again |
| S2E7 |
Eko
finds the missing piece of film in the Bible in the Arrow Station
|
| S2E9 |
Locke
shows Eko and Michael the Swan Hatch Orientation film with the
missing
piece of film spliced in |
| S2E21 |
Eko
finds the Orientation
Film in the Pearl Hatch and wants to watch it again |
| S3E5 |
Nikki
watches the Pearl Orientation film |
| S3E11 |
Locke
finds the Flame
Hatch video when he beats the computer at chess |
| S3E20 |
Young
Ben watches an orientation
video with his father and some other new
Dharma arrivals |
| S4E1 |
Hurley
watches the convenience store video |
| S4E6
|
Locke
and Ben
watch the video tape of Widmore |
| S4E13 |
Locke
watches the orientation video for the Orchid |
| S5E1 |
Dr.
Pierre Chang is seen filming the orientation video for the Arrow
Station, he is wearing a Swan
logo jacket |
| S5E9 |
Jack
and Kate watch the Orientation video in the Processing Center |
| S5E13 |
Phil
watches the surveillance
tape from monitor 4 that shows Sawyer and Kate with Young
Ben at the sonic fence |
| |
|
| |
|
| Finding
Assorted Items |
| S1E1 |
Kate
finds boots that will fit her
Jack finds the sewing kit
Jack, Kate and Charlie find the cockpit
Jack finds the transceiver after the cockpit shifts
Kate finds the pilots wings |
| S1E2 |
Michael
finds Walt
Walt finds the handcuffs
Jack finds the razor |
| S1E3 |
Jack
finds the mug shot of Kate in the Edward Mars' pocket
Locke finds
Vincent |
| S1E4 |
Claire
finds Sayid's pictures of Nadia
The LOSTies find papers and documents belonging to the dead |
| S1E6 |
Jack
finds the Adam
& Eve and the Black & White stones, although the
significance of these has not yet been revealed
Michael found Mr. Paik's watch |
| S1E12 |
Sawyer
finds the dead bodies in the water |
| S2E2 |
Claire
finds a Mary statue in Charlie's things |
| S2E16 |
Sayid,
Ana Lucia and Charlie find the balloon |
| S2E17 |
Kate,
Jack, Sayid, Ana Lucia & Charlie find the food drop |
| S2E23 |
Charlie
finds the vaccine |
| S3E2 |
Sayid
finds the Pala Ferry Dock |
| S3E3 |
Locke
finds Eko in the bear cave |
| S3E5 |
Locke,
Desmond, Sayid, Nikki and Paolo find Eko |
| S3E6 |
Locke
finds Mr. Eko's Jesus Stick |
| S3E10 |
Hurley
and Vincent find the VW bus
Jin and Hurley find the
beer
Sawyer finds the map
Kate finds Danielle |
| S3E11 |
Jin
finds the ping pong table while searching for firewood |
| S3E11 |
Locke
finds Mikhail Bakunin/Patchy's papers
Sayid finds the cow,
the farmhouse,
the satellite
dish, the C4,
the wall of Dharma
Manuals including the Food
Drop Protocol and the Operations
Manual, and he finds maps of the cables
and barracks.
|
| S3E12 |
Sayid,
Kate, Locke and Danielle find the Perimeter
Fence
Sayid finds New
Otherton
Desmond catches a seagull
for Claire |
| S3E14 |
Arzt
finds 20
new species of spiders and insects
Paolo finds the Exposé script
bag with the diamonds
Charlie finds the Exposé
script
Jin finds
Paolo
Nikki finds the nicotine
gum
Nikki finds the diamonds hidden in Paolo's
underwear
Sawyer finds the buried
diamonds
Sawyer finds the walkie
talkie
Nikki and Paolo find the drug
plane
Nikki and Paolo find the waterfall
Paolo finds the walkie
talkie in the Pearl Hatch
Sawyer finds the walkie talkie in Nikki
and Paolo's stash
Paolo finds the dead bodies in the water |
| S3E15 |
Kate
finds the knife
in Juliet's pocket
Kate and Juliet find their way to the perimeter
fence |
| S3E17 |
|
| S3E18 |
Hurley
finds the flare
gun in Naomi's pack and fires
it by mistake
Jin discovers that Patchy has stolen the satellite phone |
| S3E21 |
Sayid
has a map
of the Looking Glass that he found in the Flame Hatch
Desmond locates the
cable on the beach |
| S3E22 |
Ben
finds
the LOSTies |
| S4E1 |
Hurley
finds Jacob's
cabin, looks inside and sees a painting
of a dog, a lantern
and something/someone
who looks like Christian Shephard
Kate finds Naomi
Locke finds Hurley
Jack & Kate find Dan Faraday |
| S4E2 |
Jack
& Kate find Dan Faraday, Miles Straume, Frank Lapidus and
the helicopter
Locke's group finds
Charlotte Lewis
Kate finds the silver
case and Jack opens it and finds the gas
mask and biohazard bags
Daniel, Jack & Kate follow Miles' transponder
signal to locate
him |
| S4E3 |
Sayid finds
Naomi's silver bracelet with an inscription that reads "N.
I'll always be with you. R.G."
Sayid finds Naomi's picture of Desmond
& Penny
Locke finds the line
of volcanic ash that surrounded Jacob's cabin, but the cabin
isn't there
Sayid finds a hidden
closet behind a bookcase in Ben's house. There are clothes,
money,
passports
and luggage hidden in the closet
|
| S4E4 |
Sawyer
tells Kate "I found some clothes about your size"
Kate finds the
boat house |
| S4E5 |
Frank
Lapidus finds his way back to the boat |
| S4E6 |
Jack
finds Kate |
| S4E10 |
Miles
finds Danielle and Karl's bodies
Sawyer
finds Aaron |
| S4E11 |
Hurley finds the cabin
Locke
finds and lights the oil lamp |
| S4E12 |
Jack
& Kate find Sawyer, Miles and Aaron
Jack and Sawyer find the helicopter
and Frank Lapidus
Desmond finds the bomb on the Kahana |
| S4E13 |
Jack
and Sawyer find
Hurley
Jack, Hurley & Sawyer find
Locke at the Orchid
Keamy finds the Orchid
Kate finds her way to the helicopter
Sayid finds the bullet
hole in the helicopter
Hurley
spots the Kahana
Jack finds the fuel on the Kahana
Locke finds
Richard and the Others
Lapidus finds
the Searcher |
| S5E1 |
Tony
the Construction Foreman show Dr. Chang the sonar image of
the gear
wheel they found under the Orchid
Locke finds the heroin
filled statue and the crash site of the drug
plane
Richard finds Locke
Daniel
finds his pack |
| S5E3 |
Charlotte,
Daniel, Miles and the two LOSTies with them find their way to
the creek
Miles finds the trip wire for the explosives
Desmond finds Daniel's lab |
| S5E4 |
Sayid
finds a piece of paper with Kate's
address in Tony's pocket
Sawyer, Locke, Juliet, Daniel, Charlotte and Miles find their
way back to the beach camp
Miles finds the water
bottle with the Ajira
Airlines logo
Charlotte finds the
wreckage from the Besixdouze,
Danielle's ship
Danielle and her team find Jin
Locke finds Vincent's
leash |
| S5E5 |
Montand
finds Nadine's backpack
Jin
finds Danielle's music
box
Jin finds the violin
Jin finds Montand's
rotting arm
Jin sees black
smoke on the beach
Jin finds Danielle's
camp
Jin finds Danielle's music
box
Sawyer
finds Jin |
| S5E6 |
Jack
finds Hurley
Jack finds Kate
Jack finds his
father's shoes in his grandfather's luggage
Security finds Locke's letter and returns it to Jack |
| S5E7 |
Caesar
finds a flashlight, a copy of LIFE
magazine dated April
18, 1954 with a story about Hydrogen bomb tests,
file cabinets and files
in the Hydra office. He also finds copies of Danielle's maps
(1,
2)
and a drawing
that was also found in Daniel's journal
Ilana tells Caesar "We found someone...a man..."
Ilana tells Locke they found the three outriggers
and that "the pilot and some woman took one"
Ben finds Jin's ring (1,
2)
Ben finds Locke about to commit suicide
Charles Widmore finds all of the Oceanic 6 for Locke to contact
them |
| S5E8 |
Miles
finds the giant
statue
Rosie
sees Horace Goodspeed on the monitor
Sawyer and Miles find Horace by the sonic fence near the Flame
Sawyer
and Juliet find Daniel
Jin finds a walkie
talkie on one of the dead Others
Horace finds Paul's ankh hidden in Amy's sock drawer |
| S5E9 |
The
co-pilot finds
the runway
Miles finds Sawyer for Juliet on the monitor in the Barracks
Security Center
The survivors of Flight 316 sort
through the luggage and search for items they will need
Ben finds the outriggers
|
| S5E11 |
Jin
finds Young Ben who has been shot by Sayid
A blonde woman who
looks like Claire finds Aaron in the grocery store
Sawyer and Kate find the Others |
| S5E12 |
Locke
finds his way to the wall outside the Temple |
| S5E13 |
Young Miles finds the key to Mr. Vonner's apartment hidden
under a statue of a white
rabbit
Young
Miles finds Mr.
Vonner dead |
| S5E14 |
Jack
finds the first aid kit in the locker
Kate leads Jack and Daniel to the Others camp |
| S5E15 |
Charles
Widmore finds Jack and Kate |
| S5E16 |
Sawyer,
Juliet and Kate find Vincent, Rose & Bernard
Ilana finds Jacob's cabin
Bram finds the break
in the ash circle around the cabin
Sun finds the crib
Locke made for Aaron
Sun finds Charlie's Drive
Shaft ring where he had hidden it in the folds of Aaron's
blanket in the crib |
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Kate
finds the Swan Hatch, Jack and Sawyer
Miles finds Kate
Kate hears Juliet calling for help
Jin finds a flashlight in the van
Kate finds matches in Montand's pack and a torch nearby
Hurley finds Montand' s book |
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Kate
finds Sawyer |
| S6E4 |
FLocke
finds the machete and picks
it up
FLocke finds the cave and brings Sawyer there |
| S6E5 |
Jin
finds the explosives from the Black Rock in Claire's camp
Jack finds Kate's backpack and the Kate
Hurley finds his way to the Lighthouse
Jack find Shannon's asthma inhaler
Jack
finds Kate
Jack finds the caves
Jack finds Shannon's inhaler
Hurley finds Adam
and Eve
Jack finds his father's coffin
Hurley
finds the Lighthouse
Jack finds the telescope (1,
2) |
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Kate
finds Sayid
Sayid finds Jin
tied up and being held in the refrigerator
Kate finds a gun as she is leaving the temple |
| S6E7 |
Ben
finds Ilana, Sun, Miles and Lapidus
Jack and HUrley find Richard
Richard finds the Black
Rock
Sun finds LOSTie beach
Ben finds Booty
Babes, a book by Benjamin Disraeli and "The
Chosen" by Chaim Potok in Sawyer's tent
Ben finds an Oceanic
water bottle |
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Charlotte
finds Sawyer's binder,
the picture
of his parents and the article
about the murder suicide
Sawyer finds the Hydra
Station, the polar
bear cages and Kate's
dress
Sawyer finds the plane
(Ajira Flight 316)
Sawyer finds the drag line (1,
2)
Sawyer finds the dead
bodies of the passengers from Ajira Flight 316
Sawyer finds Zoe |
| S6E9 |
Hurley
finds Richard
Ricardo finds the doctor
Richard finds Jacob |
| S6E10 |
FLocke
finds Sun and FLocke tells Sun "I found your husband"
Zoe and Seamus find the FLockettes
Ben finds Sun
Jack finds Sun
Jin finds the power
source in Room 23
Widmore's people find Sun's camera
Sayid finds Jin
Jack finds the tomato
Sayid finds Desmond |
| S6E11 |
Male
technician finds the tripped circuit breaker
Sayid finds Desmond |
| S6E12 |
Ilana
finds the Black Rock and the dynamite
Hurley finds Ilana's book
"Notes from Underground" by Fyodor Dostoyevsky
Hurley finds the grey
bag with Jacob's
ashes
Richard finds his way back to the Black Rock |
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finds his way back to the island
Jack finds his way to the dock
Sawyer finds the Elizabeth
Sawyer finds his way to the dock
Sayid finds Desmond in the well |
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Sawyer
kills the Polar Bear |
| S1E24 |
Kate
& Jack keep Locke from being dragged down the hole by the
monster |
| S2E2 |
Michael
shoots the shark |
| S3E3 |
Locke
chases the Polar Bear away |
| S3E7 |
Sawyer,
Kate and Alex escape from Danny, Ivan and Jason by hiding in
a hole |
| S3E11 |
Sayid
and Kate do battle with Ms. Klugh and Mikhail Bakunin/Patchy,
and are eventually in control of the situation |
| S3E15 |
Kate
finds shelter to hide herself and Juliet from the monster in
the banyan
trees |
| S3E20 |
Locke
accepts the gun from Alex |
| S3E21 |
The
LOSTies work
together to save themselves and the pregnant women from
the Others
Karl
warns the LOSTies that the Others are coming a day early |
| S4E1 |
Locke
and his group of LOSTies are now trying to protect themselves
from the BOATies, while Jack and his band of LOSTies still think
the BOATies are a good thing and will rescue them |
| S4E2 |
Sayid
and Juliet rescue Jack & Kate from Miles Straume |
| S4E3 |
Ben
tells Sayid that he needs to continue to do what Ben tells him
to "protect your friends" |
| S4E7 |
Jin
tells Sun that he will protect her and the baby |
| S4E9 |
Locke,
Sawyer, Hurley and Ben work together to protect themselves and
Aaron from Keamy and his men
Sawyer, and later Locke and Hurley, work to get Claire into
the house to protect her as well |
| S4E10 |
Lapidus
helps hide Sawyer, Claire, Aaron and Miles from Keamy and his
men |
| S4E11 |
Lapidus
tries to warn the LOSTies about where the helicopter is going
Locke asks 'How do I save the island?" and he is told to
move the island |
| S4E13 |
Ben
moves the island
Michael finds the Nitrogen
canister |
| S5E2 |
The
LOSTies run into the trees to avoid being shot by the flaming
arrows |
| S5E4 |
Sayid
avoids being shot by darts from Tony's dart gun
Juliet
shoots at the people
in the second outrigger and wounds one of them |
| S5E5 |
Jin
escapes from Danielle who is shooting at him |
| S5E8 |
Sawyer
negotiates with Richard to keep the truce |
| S5E9 |
Frank
lands Flight 316, it was a bumpy landing, but he landed the
plane (1,
2) |
| S5E13 |
Sawyer
knocks Phil out to protect the LOSTies that are in New Otherton |
| S5E15 |
Sayid
ambushes the Others holding Jack and Kate at gunpoint |
| S6E4 |
FLocke
helps Sawyer get down the rope
Richard tries to convince Sawyer that Locke is killer and that
Sawyer should go with Richard |
| S6E6 |
Kate
tries to save Claire
Kate yells run as she and Miles hear the smoke monster
The FLockettes leave the Temple |
| S6E12 |
Michael
tells Hurley "I'm here to stop you from getting everyone
killed"
Ilana says her job is to protect the candidates
Hurley says he is "protecting us" by blowing up the
Black Rock |
| S6E13 |
Jack
yells "Get down" when Widmore's men send the second
missile |
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I
have included all of the instances of killing someone under
the 'bad' role of Murderer
on the Roles page.
However, it is possible that some deaths may be justifiable
and perhaps may even be rewarded with points.
Killing
that might fall under this category would be situations where
a LOSTie is in a 'good' role and kills an Other to protect
either themself or another LOSTie. Or vice versa, when an
Other kills a LOSTie.
In
S4E11 Ben says "I should have realized that it
was pointless" when Hurley questions him about
trying to kill Locke. Indicating that he did not get any points
for trying to kill him.
This
is one of the major things that I will be looking at going
forward. As always, I'll note any changes that I make to this
category on the What's
New page when, and if, they occur.
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what about all the cross connections that occur between the
LOSTies.
The
game itself is making the random connections that cause our
LOSTies to cross paths in their Flash Backs and Flash Forwards.
The game re-shuffles all of the characters and causes the
cross overs to occur. If you play LOST Connections (another
game) on the Season 2 DVD, you will experience this as you
watch the game make the connections between the characters.
It
is possible that FATE is the name of the actions (or connections)
that the game itself inserts.
Christian
Shephard to Ana Lucia S2E20 "Maybe fate has just thrown
the two of us together"and "My, my, look what fate
has delivered up this time"
Then
Christian says "Oh, the same reason fate does anything,
so that we can help each other out". This tells us that
FATE is actually on the side of the "light" ('good')
player.
You
may also want to watch toward the end of THE
LOST Survival Guide where Jeff Johnson of Entertainment
Weekly describes the story as being a "thousand little
puzzle pieces" being re-shuffled. And the response from
Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse to this may actually be more
revealing than it appears on face value alone:
Carlton Cuse- "The problem with Jeff Johnson is, he's
a lot smarter than us."
Damon Lindelof- "Way smart"
Carlton Cuse- "That's kind of upsetting to us" |
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Work/Planning |
Cooperation
is a major part of playing and winning the game. There is
a strong emphasis on teamwork ("Live Together, Die Alone"
and "The Greater Good"). It is especially evident
when one or more of the main characters must place themselves
in danger to help someone else. Also see Saving
Some
of the character deaths can be directly attributed to not
following this philosophy. For example: Joanna, who went swimming
alone S1E5; Arzt, who insisted that only he was qualified
to carry the dynamite S1E22; and Ana Lucia S2E20, who definitely
marched to her own drummer.
It
is possible that points can also be earned for working in
teams, as one of the main objectives in each level is to get
everyone working on the same team. Making plans is a form
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| S1E1 |
The
LOSTies work together to take care of the injured |
| S1E2 |
Jack
asks Hurley to help look through the luggage for drugs
Hurley helps Jack when he operates |
| S1E3 |
Sayid
says "We hiked up the mountain in an attempt to help the
rescue team"
Kate says "Live Together, Die Alone"
Sayid organizes groups to gather electronics, ration food and
collect water
Locke helps to find Vincent |
| S1E4 |
Locke,
Kate and Michael go hunting
The LOSTies collect lumber to burn the bodies in the fuselage
Kate, Sayid try to triangulate the signal |
| S1E5 |
Jack
says "We need to start figuring things out" and
"We need to figure out how we're gonna survive here."
and that "Every man for himself is not gonna work"
and "if we can't live together.. we're gonna die alone" |
| S1E6 |
Sayid
says "Whatever happened to Live Together, Die Alone"
Sayid and Sawyer help Michael
Sun says to Michael "I need your help" |
| S1E7 |
Kate
says "Sayid has a plan"
LOSTies work together to dig Jack out, and then dig both Charlie
and Jack out
Charlie says to Jack "I'm uh.. I'm here to rescue you"
Sayid, Kate, Sawyer, Shannon try to triangulate the signal
Jack, Hurley and LOSTies move into the caves
Locke helps Charlie with his drug addiction |
| S1E9 |
Danielle
says "We were part of a science team"
Kate says "I'm on the lady's team" |
| S1E11 |
Christian
Shephard says "You were part of a team Jack"
Sayid says "She murdered her entire team" |
| S1E12
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Rose
says "It's much better on my side" |
| S1E13
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Locke
says to Boone "We're gonna want him on our side"
Michael says "I'm on his side"
Sawyer says "How come nobody wants to hear my side of the
story?" |
| S1E14 |
Sayid
says "The French woman said something about her team returning
from the Black Rock" |
| S1E15 |
Jack
says "Okay, John. I mean obviously, you have a plan"
Jack says "Let's figure out a game plan" |
| S1E18 |
Sayid
says "No but her team could have" and Charlie adds
"Or Ethan's team"
Danielle says "...my team continued to search for the transmission"
and "When my team was gone" |
| S1E23 |
Danielle
says "There were 6 of us. My team. 6."
Shannon says "What? You're on his side now?"
Jack says "All I can tell you right now is that we do have
a plan" |
| S1E24 |
Arzt
complains "I know a clique when I see it"
Michael says "That was never part of the plan" |
| S2E1 |
Jack
says "That plan is not going to work" and "We're
all gonna be safe as long as we all stick together" |
| S2E2 |
The
Tailies work as a team to get Sawyer up the hill
Jack says "We're all gonna be safe as long as we all stay
together" |
| S2E3 |
Sayid,
Kate and Locke work on fixing the computer
Helen tries to help Locke to stop visiting Anthony Cooper |
| S2E4 |
Charlie says "I didn't go swanning off to the Black Rock
on the bloody A-Team mission..." |
| S2E8 |
Libby
says "What's the plan" |
| S2E9 |
Michael
asks Locke how they manage to push the button every 2 hours
and Locke replies "I set up 2 person shifts, 6 hours. Everyone's
on the roster. |
| S2E11 |
Jack
tries to convince Michael to let him come with him to go after
Walt. Michael says "No, I have to do it now and I have
to do it alone." |
| S2E13 |
Locke
says "Sounds like a plan"
Sawyer says to Locke "Fine. You don't want to trust me,
you're on your own" |
| S2E14 |
Kelvin
Inman says "Loyalty is a virtue" |
| S2E15 |
Locke
says "I just want to know what the long term plan is" |
| S2E18 |
Libby
says "I'm on your side"
Sawyer says "Great plan, Moonbeam. After that we can all
sing Kumbaya and do trust falls" |
| S2E19 |
Bernard
says "We're gonna haul them out in 2 man teams"
Kate says she was going to tell Jack about the disguises "...when
you let me back in the club" |
| S2E20 |
Ben says "I failed my mission" |
| S2E21 |
Christian
Shephard says "The same reason fate does anything, so that
we can help each other out" |
| S2E22 |
Michael
says "Jack will fill you in on the plan" |
| S2E23 |
Title
of the episode is "Live Together, Die Alone" and Jack
says it
Sayid says to Jack "You and your team will come meet me.."
Kelvin says "Radzinsky was my partner"
Jack says "But you have to know that I would never bring
you out here if I didn't have a plan" |
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DVD |
In
the deleted scene "Sawyer's Visitor", Sawyer says
to an unseen Libby "We're on the same damn team then." |
| S3E2 |
Ben/Fake
Henry asks Colleen "How fast can you put together a team?"
Ben/Fake Henry tells Jack "If you cooperate, we send you
home", "That's home Jack. Right on the other side
of that glass" and "...if you do what I tell you,
when the time comes, I will take you there. I will take you
home" |
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Charlie
says "Now that we've survived this suicide mission are
you going to tell me what you saw?" |
| S3E4 |
Sawyer
says "We did it. Our Team"
Sawyer says " It's Every Man for Himself" twice, and
the second time, Kate replies "Live Together, Die Alone" |
| S3E6 |
At
first, Jack refuses to do the surgery on Ben/Fake Henry
Kate says "No Sawyer, we're a team. You break the rocks,
I haul 'em" and Pickett says "Lord knows, I wouldn't
want to break up the team"
Sayid tells Locke "It's not safe to go alone"
Ben/Fake Henry says "Well, see you on the other side" |
| S3E7 |
Sawyer,
Kate and Alex work as a team to rescue Karl
Juliet tells Jack "Your plan's not going to work"
Tom helps Jack operate on Ben/Fake Henry
Juliet tells Jack "Your plan's not going to work" |
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Desmond
says "I need ya's to come with me"
Locke tells Charlie and Hurley them must "help to keep
things calm"
Charlie repeatedly tries to help Desmond with Claire, at one
point Desmond pushes Charlie away
Charlie and Hurley make a plan to get Desmond drunk and find
out how he can tell the future
Mrs. Hawking tells Desmond "...and if you don't do those
things, Desmond David Hume, every single one of us is dead"
Desmond saves Claire from drowning
Desmond saves Charlie from drowning and electrocution
Donovan says "Penny's father berates you for not being
a great man, voila! You've dreamed a future where you push a
button to save the world" |
| S3E9 |
Achara
helps Jack assemble and fly the kite
Jack says to Tom "You just helped me save his life"
Tom says to Jack "You risk your neck to cut them loose
and they run away and never look back." Later on Jack says
"No, I was lying, I would have done anything to get my
friends out and turning you people against each other was my
best chance of creating chaos"
Juliet asks Jack to help Ben "I'm asking you as a personal
favor.", "It's because I'm in trouble. I just killed
someone"
Jack says to Ben "Do we have a deal or not" to save
Juliet from execution
Jack tells Juliet that they are going to make sure that Ben
keeps his word by doing it "together" |
| S3E10 |
Kate
tells Sayid and Locke that Jack "sacrificed himself"
Hurley tells Charlie "cause if you don't die then we
win. I could really use a victory"
Charlie, Jin and Sawyer help
Hurley with the VW
Kate helps Sawyer by removing the dart
Kate says "I'm going to get help" to Sayid and Locke
when she leaves to find Danielle, and then Kate tells Danielle
"I came to ask for your help" |
| S3E12 |
Jin
and Sun help Claire try to catch seagulls
Claire says "Ok, so here's the plan"
Locke, Sayid, Kate and Danielle work
together to build a bridge
over a Perimeter
Fence pylon with a tree that Locke chopped
down
Christian Shephard says "I came over because I wanted to
help"
Charlie helps Claire attach
the note to the seagull's leg. Claire tells him "We're
gonna get through this together" |
| S3E13 |
Locke
helps Ben/Fake Henry out of bed and into the wheel chair and
he says to Locke " I just want some dignity. You of all
people should understand what it means to want some dignity."
Locke, Sayid and Kate make a plan to rescue Jack
Locke tells Anthony Cooper "You're going to call off your
engagement and go...or I'm going to tell her the truth"
Kate says to Jack "I came here to help you!" |
| S3E14 |
Arzt
draws a map
for Nikki
Hurley, Jin and Sawyer work together to find
Paolo
Sun, Hurley, Jin, Charlie and Sawyer work together to figure
out what happened to Nikki
Jin, Hurley, Sawyer and Charlie dig the grave for Nikki
and Paolo
Paolo asks Nikki "If you didn't need me to find that bag,
would we still be together?" |
| S3E15 |
Desmond
helps Sawyer hunt a boar
Kate and Juliet work together to escape the monster
Hurley helps Sawyer become more cooperative with the LOSTies
and step into the role of Leader
Kate tells Cassidy "Just one girl watching another girl's
back"
Cassidy helps to get Kate to see her mother
Kate thanks Cassidy for helping her |
| S3E16 |
Jack
says "I spent every moment over there trying to find
a way off this island. I was trying to help us all. I was
trying to get us rescued"
Juliet says to Kate "I need your help"
Jack tells Charlie about Juliet "She can help" |
| S3E17 |
Jin
tells Desmond "No, you help" and Desmond replies
"I can't help"
Desmond says "Thank you" to Brother Campbell
Desmond says "Thank you" to Jack for the first aid
kit
Hurley, Charlie and Jin agree to go on the 'camping trip'
with Desmond
desmond tells Ruth how the man standing over him when he woke
up said "Can I help you brother?"
Desmond tells Ruth "I was supposed to sacrifice all of
it for a greater calling"
Desmond, Hurley, Charlie and Jin work together to locate Naomi
Desmond is singing a song while he is at the table in the
monastery"It's a grand old team to play for, and it's
a grand old team to see"
Hurley says "So we're gonna go help save her life and
she's gonna get us rescued"
Desmond says "If I told you the truth. you wouldn't come" |
| S3E18 |
Sun
thanks Jack for asking her how her pregnancy is proceeding
Hurley, Jin. Desmond, Charlie and Patchy cooperate to help
Naomi
Jin brings Sun some soup
and Sun thanks him
Sun helps
Kate fix her tent
Sun thanks Mr. Kwon for the tea
Juliet tells Sun "You want me to help you and your baby.."
Juliet tells Sun "I'm helping you because I want to tell
you that you and your husband got pregnant before you came
here"
Sun helps Juliet move the bank
of lockers to reveal the hidden
room with the baby
crib |
| S3E19 |
Locke
helps Cindy put
up her tent near the Ruins and Cindy
thanks him for helping her "That would have taken me hours
to do myself"
Ben/Fake Henry says "Hello John, thanks for coming"
as Locke enters his tent
Ben/Fake Henry thanks Locke for passing
him the cane and says "I believe I have you to thank
for this John"
Desmond, Charlie, Jin and Hurley cooperate to keep Naomi a secret
Desmond says "If we keep her safe, she's our way off this
island"
Naomi tells Sayid that her helicopter took off from a freighter
about 80 miles away that is "part of a search and rescue
recovery team "
Locke says "Thank you" to Sawyer for killing Anthony
Cooper |
| S3E20 |
Alex
gives Locke a gun and he thanks her for it
Young Ben/Fake Henry thanks Annie for the dolls
Ben/Fake Henry tells Locke about the purge "When it became
clear that one side had to go.. one side had to be purged...
I did what I had to do"
Dr. Marvin Candle says "Our mission, is to study these
properties for the betterment of mankind and advancement of
world peace" |
| S3E21 |
The
LOSTies all cooperate
for the Greater Good to protect themselves and the pregnant
women from the Others
Desmond and Charlie work
together to get to the Looking
Glass Hatch
Charlie is willing to sacrifice himself so Claire and Aaron
can be rescued
Claire thanks Charlie for calming her after the crash by saying
that rescue will come
Desmond tells Charlie "Maybe I keep seeing you die because
I'm supposed to take your place"
Hurley offers to go with Desmond and Charlie and Charlie winds
up insulting Hurley when he turns him down by saying that Hurley
won't fit in the boat
Jack tells Charlie "No I'm not letting you go on some suicide
mission just to flip a switch" |
| S3E22 |
Jacks
says "Thanks" to the doctor who stitched him up
Jack says to Sarah "Thanks for coming down"
Jack says "We have a plan"
Ben/Fake Henry asks Mikhail Bakunin/Patchy for help "I
need you to help me clean up this mess that I've made. I need
you to kill Charlie"
Hurley asks to go with Sawyer and Juliet, "I just want
to help, please" and Sawyer
insults Hurley when he replies "For God's sake Hugo,
look at you. You're just gonna get in the way."
Ben/Fake Henry says "Thank you" to Jack when he hands
him the walkie talkie back
Ben/Fake Henry tells Jack "Your plan killed 7 of my people"
and Jack replies "I'm getting them all off the island.
All of them"
Danielle asks Alex "Will you help me tie him up?"
Hurley tells Jack "I went back to help Juliet and Sawyer"
Jack says "Sawyer, it's a suicide mission without guns"
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all meet at the plane and enjoy
the reunion and it looks like the group is back together
for good, but it doesn't last long
There are now two groups of LOSTies: those following Jack and
those following Locke. So there is no longer the cooperation
of working together for "The Greater Good" |
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Dan
asks Jack & Kate "Will you help me find them?"
Dan tells Jack & Kate "...my team and I are all wearing
these" referring to the GPS transponders and "Hopefully,
we'll get the signal for the rest of the team soon."
Dan tells Miles "Take it easy, it's okay. They're here
to help us"
Sayid and Juliet work together to rescue Jack & Kate from
Miles Straume
Dan repeatedly refers to his group as a "team"
Naomi says "So this is the team?"
as Matthew Abbadon lays out pictures of Dan,
Miles,
Charlotte
and Frank
and Naomi says to Abbadon "These are the wrong people
for a mission like this"
The
radio reporter says "With the plane accounted for, and
a salvage mission unlikely..."
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Juliet
tells Jack "Anything I can do to help" when she is
going to head back to the beach to get Desmond
Locke says "The plan's the same, we keep moving"
Danielle talks about Charlotte and says "If her team is
with Jack's group..."
Sayid says "So much for camaraderie" when Miles is
callous about Naomi's death
Sayid tells Jack "You're not the best candidate for this
kind of mission" |
| S4E4 |
Kate
tells Sawyer about Miles, "I want you to help me bust him
out"
Jack lies on the witness stand to help Kate
Sawyer tells Locke "I need your word you ain't gonna do
anything to her"
Kate helps Miles get in to see Ben |
| S4E5 |
Frank
tells Sayid "You gotta trust me, I'm trying to help you"
Dr. Ray tells Desmond that he wants to check his eyes "So
I can help you"
Daniel helps Desmond
Sayid helps Desmond
Dr Ray asks why Frank let Desmond speak to Daniel, Frank says
"He said he could help", Dr Ray replies "Daniel
can't even help himself"
Minkowski helps Desmond and Sayid
An unknown "friend" on the boat opens the door to
the sick bay
The auctioneer says "The Black Rock set sail from Portsmouth
England on March 22, 1845 on a trading mission to the kingdom
of Siam..." |
| S4E6 |
Juliet
helps the Others by researching the pregnancy problems
Sun helps Juliet with her tent
Jack, Juliet, Sun & Jin search for Daniel and Charlotte
Juliet helps Goodwin with his burn
Juliet says to Jack "What i need is for you to help me"
and "Will you help me"
Ben tells Locke "Believe me, your people are gonna be so
angry when they realize you still don't have a plan" and
"I always have a plan"
Daniel and Charlotte work together to stop the gas from being
released and rendering it inert
Juliet tells Ben that Jack is a spinal surgeon and can help
him
Juliet says about Daniel and Charlotte "It's alright, they're
on our side" |
| S4E8 |
There
are two teams seen on the game show that is on Michael's TV
Locke and his group appear to be heading toward working toward
protecting Ben
Michael says "I, uh... thought we were going on a rescue
mission" |
| S4E9 |
Ben,
Hurley, Sawyer and Locke working together to protect themselves
from Keamy and his men
Sawyer says "sounds like a great plan to me" about
turning ben over to Keamy and his men
Hurley and Locke help Sawyer get Claire into the house
Kate brings Daniel parts salvaged from the crash to help use
the satellite phone to send Morse Code to the BOATies |
| S4E10 |
The
LOSTies work together to help Juliet prepare for Jack's operation
Daniel and Charlotte go with Sun and Jin to the Medical Station
Bernard and Kate assist Juliet with the operation
Lapidus helps Sawyer, Claire, Aaron and Miles to hide from Keamy |
| S4E11 |
Locke,
Hurley and Ben work together to find Jacob's cabin
Gault works with Sayid by giving him the Zodiac raft to help
save the LOSTies
Lapidus tries to warn the LOSTies on the beach about where
the helicopter is going
Gault says "I agreed to ferry you here for an extraction
mission" |
| S4E12 |
The
Oceanic 6 work together to lie about the survival of the rest
of the Oceanic 815 passengers and Jack
reminds them "We all know the story"
Sawyer says to Jack "Didn't you just do the whole run
through the jungle with a walkie plan?"
Sawyer tells Jack "Hold up, you don't get to die alone"
and joins Jack to find the helicopter
One of the reporters at the Press Conference asks "What
are your plans?"
Michael tells Sun and Jin that he does not work for Ben and
that he is trying to help them
Ben tells Locke how to enter the Orchid station
Ben says to Locke "How many times do I have to tell you
John, I always have a plan" |
| S4E13 |
Sawyer
asks Jack "So what's your plan, Sundance?"
Sawyer and Jack work together to find Hurley
Jin, Michael and Desmond work together to disarm the bomb
Kate and Sayid work with the Others to save Ben
from Keamy and his men
Juliet and Daniel work together to get the LOSTies to the Kahana
The LOSTies work together to get the helicopter fueled and to
plug the bullet hole
The LOSTies work together to get on the raft |
| S5E1 |
Several
of the LOSTies are taking Daniel to the Swan Hatch
Ben says "Looks like we have a change of plan" to
Jack when he sees the news report saying that Hurley has escaped
from Santa Rosa
Richard helps Locke
Sayid and Hurley work together |
| S5E2 |
The
Oceanic 6, Desmond, Penny and Frank Lapidus all agree to lie
to protect the LOSTies still on the island
The LOSTies on the beach work together to build a fire (except
for Neil aka Frogurt who is too busy complaining)
Sawyer asks Daniel "Well, you at least got a plan?"
Miles says 'I'm going go find us something to eat" and
Juliet asks him "And how are you planning to do that?"
Jill tells Ben "Yeah, everything's right on schedule"
David Reyes about he and Hurley's plan to help Sayid "It's
okay Carmen, we have a plan"
Sawyer mentions his plan to Juliet
Sun is apparently working with Widmore to kill Ben
Locke helps Sawyer and Juliet with Jones and his men |
| S5E3 |
Desmond
tells Penny "I am the only one that can help them",
meaning the LOSTies
Desmond tries to find Daniel's mother
Miles, Charlotte, Daniel and the two LOSTies try to meet up
with Sawyer and Juliet at the creek as they had planned
Miles tries to warn the LOSTies about the explosives
Ellie tells Miles, Daniel and Charlotte that "If you cooperate
now, things will go much easier for you"
Sawyer and Juliet rescue Daniel form Ellie
Richard says "How do I know you weren't sent here on some
suicide mission" |
| S5E4 |
Jack
and Kate make up the story about Aaron that the Oceanic 6 will
use, Jack tells Kate "If we're gonna be safe, if we're
gonna protect the people we left behind, tomorrow morning I'm
gonna have to convince everyone to lie" and Kate tells
Jack "I've always been with you"
Sun loans Kate a suit to go see the lawyer, Dan Norton
Locke has a plan to bring back the Oceanic 6
Sawyer, Locke, Miles, Daniel, Juliet and Charlotte work together
to get to the Orchid that includes using the Zodiac raft
Jack says "Ben is on our side" and Sayid replies "The
only side he's on is his own"
The LOSTies work together to paddle
the canoe away from the people shooting at them and then
to get the outrigger
out of the surf
Jack tells Carole Littleton "Everything that Kate and I
have done, it was for Aaron" and she replies "Who's
Aaron?"
Danielle and her
team work to rescue Jin. The team includes Danielle,
Robert,
Montand,
Brennan,
an un-named man
and an un-named woman
Jack, Ben and Sayid have a plan to get Hurley out of jail |
| S5E5 |
Danielle
tells Jin "Then go with us to the tower, then we'll find
your camp" and Jin agrees to help Danielle and her team
search for the radio tower
Jin, Danielle and her team all search
for Nadine
Jin, Danielle, Robert, Lacombe and Brennan try to stop
the smoke monster from dragging Montand down the hole
Robert, Brennan and Lacombe go down into the hole to help Montand
Charlotte tells Jin "Locke's got a plan to leave here and
bring back all of your friends"
Locke, Juliet, Sawyer. Miles and Jin head to the Orchid while
Daniel stays behind to help Charlotte
Sawyer
tries to help Locke when the flash occurs as Locke is climbing
down the well
Daniel tells Charlotte "I've got a plan.., I've got a plan"
Christian Shepard tells Locke that he can't help him up |
| S5E6 |
Mrs.
Hawking, Jack, Kate and Ben all work together to return to the
island and Hurley, Sun, Sayid and Frank all turn up on the same
plane |
| S5E7 |
Charles
Widmore's men pick up Locke in the desert and bring him to Doctor
Hajer at the hospital
Charles Widmore tells Locke he will help him get the Oceanic
6 back to the island and provides Abaddon to help him
Ben claims that he is "...watching all of them. Keeping
them safe" |
| S5E8 |
Sawyer
and Miles work together to bring Horace Goodspeed home to
Amy
Sawyer tries to save Locke when the flash occurs
Miles complains "It's the only two plans you people have"
and Sawyer responds "...You don't like the plan, good
luck"
Juliet tells Sawyer "Any plan is better than no plan"
Sawyer gets Juliet from the motor pool to help Amy give birth
Sawyer works with Richard to maintain the truce
Horace agrees to let the LOSTies stay in New Otherton because
of Sawyer |
| S5E9 |
Caesar
helps Ilana
Frank
helps Sun
Frank gathers everyone on the beach and says "just stick
together, hunker down and just wait until help gets here"
Caesar asks "Who wants to help me?" when he organizes
a search of the Hydra Station
Sawyer comes up with a plan to pass Jack, Kate and Hurley
off as Dharma recruits
Ben says to Sun "So, you can come along and help me now,
or you can stay here" as he takes the sling off his arm
Chang says to Jack "Could they be any more disorganized
on the other side?" |
| S5E10 |
Young
Ben tells Sayid "If you're patient. I think I can help
you too"
Young Sayid kills the chicken so his brother doesn't have to
Ben says to Sayid "Congratulations, mission accomplished"
Sawyer tries to get Sayid to become a part of the Long Con that
he and the LOSTies are playing on Dharma
Sawyer says "Either you cooperate and join the party in
Dharmaville or you're on your own" To which Sayid replies
"Then I guess I'm on my own"
Young Ben sets a plan in motion to free Sayid from his cell
and get Sayid take him to the Others
Kate, Sawyer, Jack and the Dharma people work together to save
people from the burning building and put out the fire. |
| S5E11 |
Horace
leads and organizes the rest of the Dharma people after the
flaming van and assigns "team
leaders" to specific tasks
The LOSTies discover that Young Ben helped Sayid escape
Jin brings Young Ben back to New Otherton
juliet tries to save Young Ben
Kate and Roger Linus work together with a winch to move the
remains of the flaming van
Kate figures out a way for Roger to stay near Young Ben by watching
Kate so she doesn't pass out
Kate and Juliet decide to take Young Ben to the Others and they
load him into a van
Sawyer helps Kate bring Young Ben to Richard |
| S5E12 |
Ilana,
Bram and some of the survivors of Flight 316 try to ready a
large silver crate to move it to the main island
Caesar offers to help protect Ben from Locke
Locke decides to help Ben get back to the main island to be
judged by the Smoke Monster
Lapidus says "Forget about the fact that the rest of your
people are supposedly 30 years ago. Now the only ones here to
help us are a murderer and a guy who can't remember how the
hell he got out of a coffin"
Locke says he can help Sun locate Jin |
| S5E13 |
Miles
helps Kate and Sawyer
Juliet had sent Sawyer to help Kate
Miles works with Horace, Radzinsky and Chang to cover-up Alvarez's
death
Roger
returns with the medical supplies that Juliet requested
Miles agrees to work with Naomi and her team
Bram tells Miles "You're playing for the wrong team"
and when Miles asks "Yeah, what team are you on?"
Bram replies "The team that's gonna win" |
| S5E14 |
Sawyer
holds a meeting at his house with Juliet, Kate, Jack, Hurley
and Jin to decide their next moves
Sawyer plans that he, Juliet, Miles, Hurley and Jin will go
back to the beach, while Jack, Kate and Daniel plan to go find
the Others |
| S5E15 |
Hurley
asks Jin and Miles "So what's the plan?"
Hurley says "Sawyer always has a plan" |
| S5E16 |
Locke
asks Ben about Richard "Why haven't you told him yet
about my plans for Jacob?" and Ben replies "If by
plans you mean murdering him John, I assumed you'd want me
to keep that a secret"
Richard and Eloise work with Jack and Sayid to get Jughead's
core
Sun goes with Locke, Ben and the Others to find Jacob
Kate, Sawyer and Juliet work as a team to get off the Galaga
and to try to stop Jack
Hurley, Jin and Miles rescue Jack and Sayid
Rose provides directions to New Otherton to Sawyer, Juliet
and Kate
Jacob says to Ilana "I need your help"
Ben cooperates with Locke in his plan to kill Jacob
Jin helps Jack tend to Sayid's wound
Sawyer, Juliet and Kate work together to try and stop Jack
from using the bomb
Jack refers to the professional staff in the OR as his team
Jack, Kate, Miles, Sawyer and Juliet work together to set
off the bomb
Sayid says "According to Faraday's plan you must get
the bomb to the source of electromagnetism"
Miles
helps his father Pierre Chang
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| S6E1 |
Sawyer,
Jack, Kate, Miles and Jin work to free Juliet
Jack, Sayid and Cindy work together to save Charlie
Sawyer
helps Kate escape from the TSA agents on the elevator |
| S6E3 |
Jack,
Jin and Hurley help
Sayid
Kate says to Jack "I'll take care of James, you take care
of Sayid"
Jin asks Kate about Sawyer "So you never planned on bringing
him back to the Temple?"
Kate helps Claire
Claire helps Jin |
| S6E4 |
Locke
helps Sawyer when two of the ladders break when they are
climbing down the cliff face to the cave |
| S6E5 |
Jacob
tells Hurley "Someone is coming to the island. I need you
to help him find it"
Claire helps Jin by sewing up his injury
Jack and Hurley work together to locate the Lighthouse
Jacob planned for Jack to see what was in the mirrors and that
he needed to get Jack and Hurley away from the Temple because
"Someone bad" is going there
Hurley says "Mission un-accomplished" to Jacob |
| S6E6 |
Ilana
works to save Sun, Lapidus and Miles
Kate tries to save Claire
Sayid and Claire are working with FLocke
Lapidus asks if Ilana has a plan and she says "Yes, I have
a plan" |
| S6E7 |
Ben
tutors Alex
Jack and Hurley follow Richard to the Black
Rock because they think he is taking them to the Temple
Lapidus
and Miles
gather firewood
Ben and Arzt work together to recover emails between Nurse Kondraki
and Principal Reynolds
Richard says that Jacob "had a plan"
FLocke tells Ben "I'm gathering a group to leave this place
for good"
Ben
joins Sun to help her build the tent
Charles Widmore tells the crewman "Proceed as planned" |
| S6E8
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Sawyer
tells Jin about Sun ""Fine. If she's here, you've
got my word... we ain't leaving without her
Miles,
Sawyer
and the other
policemen ambush Ava
Sawyer
and FLocke put the outrigger in the water
FLocke tells Sawyer about his plan to fly Ajira 316 off the
island
Sawyer has made independent deals with Widmore, FLocke and Kate.
At the end of this episode we don't know who Sawyer is conning
and who he is telling the truth to |
| S6E9 |
Jacob
asks "Will you help me, Ilana?"
Ilana asks "After I've brought them to the Temple, what
do I do? and Jacob replies, "Ask Ricardus"
Richard asks Jack "Did you tell your friends that I was
trying to commit suicide when you found me?" and "Does
that sound like someone who has a plan?"
Hurley tells Isabella "Yes, I can help you"
Esau/MIB recruits Richard to help him kill Jacob |
| S6E10 |
Sawyer
tells Jin "I already told you, I have a deal with Widmore"
Jin asks Sun "That was your plan all along?" |
| S6E11 |
Widmore
says to Desmond "I hope you'll help me"
Desmond helps Claire with her bags
Charles tells Desmond "Your talent is vital to our mission"
Desmond asks Widmore "Will you help me up please?"
Desmond decides to work with Charles Widmore |
| S6E12 |
Ilana
plans to blow up the plane
Richard takes Ben and Miles when he heads to the Dharma barracks
to get grenades and explosives to blow up the plane
Hurley decides that the he should take his group to meet with
FLocke
Hurley and Libby plan a date, and then finally get to go on
their picnic on the beach |
| S6E13 |
Sawyer
tells Hurley and Kate tells Jack about Sawyer's plan to use
the sub to get off the island
FLocke tells Sawyer "I needs your help with something"
Sawyer outlines his plan to Jack about taking the Elizabeth,
he wants Jack to get Hurley, Sun and Lapidus to meet up with
Kate and him, no Claire
Jack yells "Get down" when Widmore sends another missile
to strike FLocke and the FLockettes |
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Power
Sources |
There
are many references to batteries and other power sources,
as well as the cables. Power sources are another type of item
that, when found, could result in the 'game player' gaining
points. |
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Batteries
in transceiver |
| S1E3 |
Batteries
spotted in the wreckage |
| S1E4 |
Sayid
says "There must be a power source somewhere." |
| S1E7 |
Lap
Top Battery from Sawyer's stash |
| S1E9 |
Sayid
finds the grey cable that leads him to Danielle
Danielle tortures Sayid with a battery connected to the bed |
| S1E13 |
Sawyer
has batteries in his stash |
| S1E17 |
The
batteries in Hurley's CD player die |
| S1E18 |
Danielle
has batteries needed for the raft to send signals
Hurley asks Danielle if she knows where the numbers got their
power
Hurley finds the black cable that leads him to Danielle |
| S1E24 |
Walt
tells Michael that he needs new batteries for his Gameboy |
| S1E24 |
The
batteries are lost when the raft sinks |
| S2E4
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Sayid
tells Jack "My best guess.. It's a geothermal generator
behind these walls. That's the power source" |
| S2E7 |
Ana
Lucia finds the power source in the Arrow Station |
| S2E15 |
Kate
finds the power source in the Medical Station |
| S2E21 |
Locke
finds the power switch in the Pearl Hatch |
| S3E11 |
Sayid
finds the map of the electricity
and cables on the island |
| S3E18 |
Juliet
turns on the power source in the Medical
Station |
| S3E21 |
Danielle
uses a battery
to blow up the trees
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| S3E22 |
Jack
locates a power
source in the Radio Tower |
| S4E1 |
Daniel
Faraday has a blinking light on his vest indicating some sort
of power source |
| S4E2 |
The
GPS transponders on Dan, Charlotte and Miles' vests have power
sources |
| S4E3 |
Daniel's
equipment has it's own power source |
| S4E5 |
Sayid
finds a battery
to power the communications equipment |
| S4E6 |
The
Tempest is an electrical
station that powers the island, both Juliet and Goodwin
describe it as an electrical power station
Daniel and Charlotte tell Kate they were trying to retrieve
batteries in a pack that they threw out of the helicopter |
| S4E8
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There
is a power source in the bomb
Michael and Jeff are working in the engine room |
| S4E9 |
Daniel
uses the satellite phone and parts salvaged from the plane to
be able to send Morse Code to the BOATies |
| S4E10 |
Sun
flips
the light switch in the Medical Station and Daniel says
to Charlotte "Where do you suppose all this power is coming
from?"
Something is powering
the lights that Juliet uses for Jack's operation |
| S4E13 |
Desmond
tells Jin and Michael "This battery
is the power source" for the bomb
Ben
locates the power source in the Orchid to turn on the lights
and equipment |
| S5E1 |
Pierre
Chang tells Tony "This station is being built here because
of its proximity to what we believe to be almost limitless energy.
and that energy, once we can harvest it correctly, its going
to allow us to manipulate time" |
| S5E3 |
Daniel
locates the control
panel on Jughead |
| S5E6 |
Mrs.
Hawking throws the light switch at the
top of the stairs and then switches
on the lights in the Lamp
Post
There is a board
on the wall that lists longitude and latitude coordinates
of the unique pockets of electromagnetic energy located around
the world |
| S5E8 |
Jerry
pushes
the button on the tape player to turn it on |
| S5E9
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Lapidus
tells the co-pilot"Give me more power. I can pull us out
of this" |
| S5E11 |
Sawyer
pushes buttons on a panel near the monitors in the Security
Center, and lights come on |
| S5E12 |
Ben
uses the light switch to
turn on a light in the closet and reveal the hidden
door to the tunnel |
| S5E13 |
Naomi
flips the light switch in the restaurant kitchen |
| S5E16 |
Pierre
Chang shuts down the drilling at the Swan Hatch site and Radzinsky
has it restarted |
| S6E3 |
Dogen
uses a small generator to torture Sayid |
| S6E10 |
Jin
finds the power
source in Room 23 |
| S6E11 |
The
generator
and the lever
used to turn it on and off |
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Memory |
The
memory losses that have occurred are related to the changing
Roles of the characters.
When characters switch roles, they apparently can be subject
to the loss of some memories. Also see the Reset
section.
I
especially like the choice of ROM for Ethan's last name, where
the death of Ethan Rom can also be looked at as a loss of
memory. |
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Jack
asks Rose "You remember me?" |
| S1E9 |
Nadia
says to Sayid "What? You don't remember me?" |
| S1E11 |
Charlie
suffers from memory loss |
| S1E15 |
Claire
suffers from memory loss
Death of Ethan ROM = Memory Loss
Sawyer says "You remember him don't you?" |
| S1E15 |
Sayid
says "Then tell me, doctor, how many times have you diagnosed
actual amnesia and such a selective brand of it."
Jack replies "Okay, it's rare. But she's been through
a major trauma. It is possible that her memory reset to the
crash." |
| S2E14
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Sayid
says to Charlie "because both of them seem to have forgotten.
That you were strung up by your neck and left for dead. That
Claire was taken and kept for days during which God only knows
what happened to her. That these people ... these Others...
are merciless and can take us whenever they choose. So tell
me Charlie, have you forgotten?"
Sayid says "For the next 6 years I did things I wish
I could erase from my memory" |
| S2E6 |
Claire
says to Locke "It's like we're playing Mom & Dad
to this baby but I don't remember marrying him"
Ana Lucia says to Libby "Do you remember what happened
to us? What they did to us? So you remember Goodwin?" |
| S2E7 |
Nathan
says "I don't remember seeing you on the plane, Ana Lucia" |
| S2E10 |
Eko
says to Yemi "Have you forgotten how you got that cross
brother?"
Jack says to Michael "No one's forgotten about Walt" |
| S2E13 |
Jack
asks Sun "Do you remember anything?" |
| S2E14 |
Ben/Fake
Henry Gale claims he doesn't remember the details of burying
Jennifer Gale and Sayid gives a long, heartfelt speech that
if Ben/Fake Henry was telling the truth, he would remember
every detail
Sayid says to Charlie "There is no way that I can ever
explain that to Jack or Locke because both of them have forgotten"
Charlie asks Sayid "Forgotten what?" and Sayid replies
"That you were strung up by your neck and left for dead.
That Claire was taken and kept for days during God knows what
happened to her. That these people, these Others are merciless
and can take any one of us when ever they choose. So tell
me Charlie, have you forgotten?" |
| S2E15 |
Claire
asks Libby "Can you help people remember things?"
Libby replies "I guess it depends on what you need to remember."
Claire says "He took me. He took both of us. And I don't
remember. I don't remember anything" and "I have amnesia.
There's two weeks missing from my life"
Libby tells Claire "I don't think you have amnesia. Sometimes
when something terrible happens to us there's a little switch
in your head that flicks on to protect us from having to deal
with it. Maybe your memories aren't gone. Maybe you're just
blocking them."
Danielle asks Claire "You don't remember, do you?" |
| S2E18 |
Hurley
says to Libby "Remember when I said I knew you from somewhere?" |
| S2E19
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Bernard
says "Have you forgotten that we all crashed on this island?" |
| S2E21 |
Locke
says "It's a memory. It's ten seconds of nothing" |
| S2E21 |
Sawyer
says "Did you suddenly forget what happened? Why I got
shot?" |
| S2E20 |
Hurley
says to Libby "Maybe if I get drunk enough I'll remember
where I know you from" |
| S2E22
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Sawyer
says "In case you forgot, they took five of them right
off us" |
| S2E23 |
Locke
says "Refresh my memory Desmond" |
| S2E24 |
Charlie
appears to suffer from memory loss again at the end of the Season
2 Finale |
| S3E3 |
Charlie
says to Locke "You do remember punching me in the face
and accusing me of using heroin when I was not?"
Eddie says to Locke "Did you forget that you had a duffle
bag full of guns when you brought me here?"
Eddie says "I want in on whatever you guys are trying to
blow up" |
| S3E4 |
Zeke/Tom
says to Ben/Fake Henry "In case you forgot, Colleen's.." |
| S3E7 |
Jack
asks Kate if she remembers the story he told her just after
the crash |
| S3E8
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Desmond
spends the entire episode having what appears to be memory flashes
Desmond to Charlie "How do I know you?" "Where
do I know you from?"
Thinking Desmond is requesting a song, Charlie replies "I
don't know but I'll remember if I could get some help"
Desmond says "I remember seeing you" and then goes
on a rant about remembering what happened and how it has all
happened before
Desmond tells Donovan "I remember things" "I
remember this night"
The photographer says "Small price for the memories" |
| S3E11 |
Sami
asks Sayid "Do you not recognize one of your victims?
Do you not recognize the woman that you tortured? Do you not
recognize my wife?" and Sayid replies "I remember
every face of every person I've interrogated."
Sami says "She remembers your face"
Amira says "So today ...I ask only one thing of you.
I ask you now that you show me the respect of acknowledging
what you did to me. That it was you who questioned me. That
tortured me. And that you remember me" and Sayid replies
"I remember you. I remember your face. Your face has
haunted me ever since I left Iraq. I am sorry. I am so sorry
for what I did to you. I'm ...so ...sorry.
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Mikhail
Bakunin/Patchy says "Of course I don't know you Sayid Jarrah.
How could I ? And you Kate Austin are a complete stranger to
me. But you John Locke, you I might have a fleeting memory of.
But I must be confused, because the John Locke I knew was a
para..."
Christian Shephard explains to Claire that her mother probably
said he was dead "Because I, no doubt, left her with so
many wonderful memories" |
| S3E13 |
Kate
says about Jack being kidnapped and held prisoner "He wouldn't
just forget that" |
| S3E14 |
Nikki
asks Paolo about the Medusa Spider "You remember Dr. Arzt's
friend?" |
| S3E17 |
Desmond
says "and that's the last thing I remember and when I woke
up..." |
| S3E18 |
Charlie
tells Desmond "In case you have forgotten, there are people
on this island trying to kill us" and "You've forgotten
what's at stake here"
Desmond says to Charlie "Lest you forget.. she said my
bloody name"
Sun says to Jin "I'm sorry, I forgot" to get the mail
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| S3E19 |
Ben/Fake
Henry tells Locke "You're still crippled by the memories
of the man you used to be before you came to this island"
Naomi says "Remind me not to rescue you Sayid" |
| S3E20 |
Ben/Fake
Henry asks Richard Alpert "You do remember birthdays,
don't you Richard?'
Roger Linus says "It's your birthday,
sorry I forgot"
Ben/Fake Henry says to Roger Linus "I don't know why
I keep fooling myself that one of these years you're actually
gonna remember" and :For as long as I can remember, I've
had to put up with you and doing that required a tremendous
amount of patience" |
| S3E21 |
Charlie
gives Desmond his list of "Greatest Hits" and tells
him "You know, memories, they're all I've got" |
| S3E22 |
Bernard
says "I'm a dentist, not Rambo" and Rose replies "And
don't you forget it"
Jack replies to Ben/Fake Henry "I almost forgot, you're
one of the good guys" |
| S4E3 |
Sawyer
says to Kate "I seem to recall you being shuttled off to
jail before we landed here"
Ben says to Sayid "Need I remind you what they did the
last time you fought with your heart instead of your gun?" |
| S4E4 |
Kate
asks Miles "Do you know who I am? Do you know what I did?"
Miles asks Ben "You know who I am? You know who I work
for?"
Miles tells Kate "Of course we know about you and everybody
else on the 815 manifest" "Your name is Katherine
Ann Austen, you're wanted for Murder, Fraud, Arson and a whole
bunch of other stuff I can't remember. You're a fugitive"
Charlotte says "Time. Okay tell me what you remember"
as she times Daniel during the memory
test
Kate tells Sawyer "Forget it"
Kate tells Jack "I've heard you say that story so many
times I'm starting to think you believe it" |
| S4E5 |
Desmond
to Sayid on the helicopter "Who are you?" and "How
do you know my name?" and when they land on the boat, Desmond
repeatedly asks "Who are you people?", "Where
am I", "What am I doing here?", and then says
"I don't know you" to Sayid
Keamy asks Frank "Who are they?" when Sayid and Desmond
get off the helicopter
When Daniel questions desmond why the 2004 Daniel didn't remember
him, Desmond replies "Maybe you just forgot"
Sayid asks Desmond about Penny's telephone number, when Desmond
says he doesn't know the number, Sayid says "Well you better
remember it"
Desmond begs Penny "I'm not crazy Penny, you have to believe
me, you have to trust me" as he is saying "trust me",
he comes back to 2004 and Sayid hears it and replies "I
do trust you, but you still have to remember that number"
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| S4E8 |
Gault
asks the men assembled on the deck of the Kahana "Do you
remember what happened to the last two men who took off in this
boat? Remember what happened to Minkowski?" |
| S4E9 |
Ben
asks the desk
clerk at the hotel in Tunisia for the date, she tells him
it is October 24th, 2005
Claire momentarily thinks that Sawyer is Charlie when Sawyer
rescues her from the rubble
Ben asks Sayid "Your friend Desmond had a boat. Remember?"
and "You remember the name Charles Widmore don't you?" |
| S4E10 |
When
Jane, the receptionist, calls Jack to confirm his appointment,
he replies "Yeah, I remember"
Juliet asks Sun "Do you remember where the medical station
is, or don't you?" |
| S4E12 |
Jack
says "I don't remember what I wrote" |
| S5E1 |
Jack
says to Ben "How did we get here? How did all of this happen?"
Desmond asks Daniel "Do I know you?"
Desmond says "It wasn't a dream. It was a memory" |
| S5E2 |
Hurley
tells Sayid "I'm gonna remember this and then someday you're
gonna need my help, and I'm telling you right now, you're not
getting it" But when Sayid needs help, Hurley has obviously
forgotten that he said this
Darlene says "I remember you, you're the guy who won the
lottery and crashed in that plane"
Charlotte tells Daniel that she can't remember her mother's
maiden name |
| S5E3 |
Penny
asks Desmond "Why didn't you remember it until 2 days
ago?"
The janitor tells Desmond "I'll forget you broke my lock,
if you tell your mates that all you found is rubbish left
behind by a crazy man"
Penny asks Desmond "What if you wake up tomorrow and
you remember something else?" and he replies "Then
I'll forget it"
Penny says "You'll never forget it Des. So I guess we're
going with you"
Richard asks Locke "Why don't I remember any of this?"
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| S5E4 |
Miles
says "Remind me never to do that again"
Charlotte can't remember who Daniel is |
| S5E5 |
Charlotte
says "Because, I remember something now" |
| S5E7 |
Ilana
tells Locke "Nobody remembers you being on the plane"
Locke replies "I don't remember being on it either",
then when she asks "What do you remember?" he says
"I remember a lot" and Locke
finally tells her "I remember dying"
Abaddon asks Locke "You're not really going to pretend
that you don't remember that I was an orderly in the hospital
right after your accident?" and Locke replies "No,
I remember" |
| S5E8 |
Sawyer
says 'But right now, I can barely remember her" |
| S5E9 |
Sawyer
says "Just remember to act a little doped-up from the sub"
Lapidus says to Sun "you want to remind me why the hell
we're doing this?" |
| S5E10 |
Juliet
says "Oh, I forgot" when she moves from the role of
"Chucklehead" who was cooking bacon to "Spectator"
looking out the window |
| S5E11 |
Hurley
asks "If this already happened to me then why don't I remember
any of it?" |
| S5E12 |
Charles
asks Young Ben "You don't remember?" about having
been shot by Sayid
Ben asks Locke "You do remember John? It's why you left
in the first place, to convince them to come back"
Lapidus says "Forget about the fact that the rest of your
people are supposedly 30 years ago. Now the only ones here to
help us are a murderer and a guy who can't remember how the
hell he got out of a coffin" |
| S5E14 |
Daniel
says to Charles Widmore "I'm sorry sir, I don't... Did
Caroline tell you? I have a condition that affects my memory"
Charles
Widmore admits to Daniel that he ran an elaborate con by faking
the wreckage of Flight 815 and when Daniel asks "Why
would you tell me that?" Widmore responds "Because,
come tomorrow you won't remember I did"
Daniel says "I forgot"
Jack asks Kate "Remember the code?' |
| S5E15 |
Sun
asks Richard "Do you remember them?" and Richard replies
"Yes I was here, 30 years ago. And I do, I remember meeting
them very clearly because I watched them all die"
Eloise asks Jack "How is this my hand writing if I don't
remember writing it?"
Sawyer tells Juliet "..I got your back, remember?"
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| S5E16 |
Sayid
says to Jack "Remember, be careful" |
| S6E1 |
Sayid tells Hurley "I've tortured more people than I can
remember. I murdered" |
| S6E3 |
Sayid
doesn't remember anything after he was shot
Aldo asks Kate "You don't even remember me, do you?"
Claire
struggles with recognizing who Jin is |
| S6E4
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Sawyer
asks FLocke "What are you?" and FLocke replies "What
I am is trapped. And I've been trapped so long that I don't
even remember what it feels like to be free" |
| S6E5 |
Jack
has trouble remembering his appendix
operation and questions his mother about it
Hurley says about Adam and Eve "I totally forgot these
were here"
Justin tells Claire "No, you're not remembering things
right" |
| S6E6 |
Keamy
says to Sayid "Just relax ...and forget about it" |
| S6E7 |
Ben
says about Principal Reynolds "He's forgotten what the
public school system is about"
Ben tells Lapidus "I remember that plane breaking in half,
like it was yesterday"
Alex says "..I guess she forgot I was there" and "...forget
I said that"
Ben asks Miles "Do you remember you once asked me for $3.2
million?" |
| S6E8 |
FLocke
tells Sawyer "I wish you hadn't interrupted me", Sawyer
replies "I'm sorry, I forgot my manners" and FLocke
answers "I forgive you" |
| S6E10 |
Jack
says to Sun "I remember when you first planted this here" |
| S6E11 |
Widmore
asks Desmond "You were shot by Benjamin Linus, do you remember
that?" and Desmond replies "Yes, I remember"
Penny asks "Have we met before?" and Desmond says
"I think we would have remembered if we had" |
| S6E12 |
Libby
asks Hurley "You don't remember me, do you?"
Hurley tells Desmond about Libby "she told me that we already
know each other. And that I'd remember"
The entire conversation between Libby and Hurley in the rec
room at Santa Rosa is filled with phrases containing the words
"remembered" "memories" and "memory"
FLocke says "Remind me Desmond, how long were you down
in that hatch, pushing that button?"
When Hurley and Libby kiss at the beach, Hurley says "I
think I'm remembering stuff" |
| S6E13 |
Sawyer
asks Kate "You remember me?" and Kate replies "Yeah,
I remember"
Jack says
"I remember how I felt last time I left"
Jack says "I think I know this guy" |
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| Maps
& Keys |
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maps are included to act as a 'game key'. They provide an
advantage by helping a 'game player' win the game. The maps
are intended to help a 'game player' achieve the objectives
of the level that they are in, and to move on to the next
level.
As
for the keys that are featured so heavily in so many episodes,
they do seem essential to achieving the game's objectives.
For instance, Kate needs the Marshall's handcuff key to get
out of the handcuffs after the crash; and Kate & Jack
need the key to the Marshall's Halliburton case to get the
guns out. It is interesting to note that the hatches on the
blast door map also look very much like key holes.
Points
are probably awarded for finding and utilizing the maps &
keys. |
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| S1E9 |
Sayid
finds Danielle's maps ( Map
1, Map 2, Map
3, Map 4, Map
5, Map
6, Map
7, Map
8) |
| S1E12 |
Shannon
helps Sayid with Danielle's
maps |
| S1E13 |
Sayid
uses Danielle's maps |
| S1E14 |
The
LOSTies try to interpret Danielle's maps |
| S1E18 |
Hurley
takes Danielle's maps |
| S1E19 |
Boone
looks at the map of Nigeria |
| S2E16 |
Ben/Fake
Henry Gale draws a map |
| S2E17 |
Locke
finds the blast
door map |
| S2E19 |
Locke
tries to recreate
the blast door map |
| S2E24 |
Sawyer
finds Locke's drawing of the blast door map in the pile of canisters |
| S3E2 |
Sayid
uses Danielle's maps to plot a course for the sailboat |
| S3E9 |
Sawyer
says to Kate "You got a map you ain't showing me Magellan?" |
| S3E10 |
Sawyer
finds the map
in the van of the road that Dharma was building |
| S3E11 |
Sayid
finds the maps of the cables
and the barracks |
| S3E12 |
Mikhail
Bakunin/Patchy tells Sayid that the Perimeter
Fence is on the map |
| S3E14 |
Arzt
draws the map
that Nikki and Paolo use |
| S3E17 |
Desmond
finds Naomi's
bag with binoculars, an MRE, maps, satellite
phone and a copy of Ardil-22
(Catch -22 by Joseph Heller in Portuguese) |
| S3E18 |
Sun
has a map in the file
folder that she has re: Mr. Kwon. It also contains a log
of his activities |
| S3E21 |
Sayid
has a map of
the Looking Glass Hatch that he took from the Flame Hatch.
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| S3E22 |
Ben/Fake
Henry plots the route that the LOSTies took from
the beach to the Radio
Tower and his
route to intercept
the LOSTies before
they reach it.
There is a map on the wall behind
Penny
Jack has maps
all over the floor
of his apartment |
| S4E2 |
There
are maps of the Sunda
Trench shown on the news
report
Frank
Lapidus has maps on the walls
of his Caribbean Dreams Travel Agency |
| S4E3 |
Elsa
draws a circle
on Sayid's map to help him locate a restaurant later that night |
| S4E4 |
Jin
looks at a map
There are maps
on the back wall of the courtroom
Jack has the keys to the brown pickup truck in
his hand |
| S4E6 |
Daniel
uses a map
of the island that Widmore may have gotten from log
of the 1st Mate of the Black Rock
There is a map of the layout of the Tempest
gas tank system shown on one of the computer's that Daniel
is is working on |
| S4E7 |
Kate
draws a map for Sun and Jin and gives them directions to
the Barracks
There are maps
and globes
in Captain Gault's quarters |
| S4E8 |
Ben
gives Alex and Danielle the map
to The Temple |
| S4E10 |
There
is a map
on the wall behind Kate as she picks up Aaron |
| S4E11 |
There
is a map seen just behind Keamy, it is on
the wall in Michael's quarters
Locke
finds the map
to the cabin in Horace
Goodspeed's pocket |
| S4E12 |
Karen
Decker shows a series of maps during the Oceanic 6 Press Conference
(#1,
#2,
#3,
#4) |
| S4E13 |
Jin
maps out the bomb
Lapidus follows a map
to the Kahana |
| S5E1 |
A
sonar image is shown of the gear
wheel below the Orchid
There are maps
of the airport located in the room that Sun is locked in |
| S5E2
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Kate
looks at a map
of the West Hollywood area
Mrs. Hawking
is looking at maps on her computer
Mrs. Hawking uses a Foucault
Pendulum that traces chalk marks on a large map |
| S5E6 |
There
is a map
on the floor below the Foucault Pendulum that traces chalk
marks on the large map
There is a board
on the wall that lists longitude and latitude coordinates
of the unique pockets of electromagnetic energy located around
the world |
| S5E7 |
Caesar
finds copies of Danielle's maps (1,
2)
"Build
Our World" logo |
| S5E9 |
There
is a survey
map on the table by the model that Radzinsky is making
Frank says that the island's ...not on my charts" |
| S5E10 |
There
is a map on the wall in the security center
The Build Our World logo has a map in it |
| S5E12 |
There
is a map
located on the wall on other side of the door behind Locke |
| S5E13 |
There
is a map
located on the wall in the Security Center |
| S5E15 |
Radzinsky
has Sawyer draw a map of where the Hostiles are |
| S5E16 |
A
piece
of tapestry fixed to the cabin wall with a knife tells Ilana
where to find Jacob, at the statue
Radzinsky consults the blueprints
for the Swan Hatch |
| S6E5 |
There
is a map of Williams Conservatory located under the Exit sign
near Dogen |
| S6E7 |
There
are several maps in Ben's classroom (1,
2)
One of the students has a t-shirt
with a map of Africa on it
Alex has a text
book with a map on it |
| S6E10 |
Zoe
has a map of the island with the pockets of electromagnetism
that Jin signed |
| S6E13 |
There
is a map
on the wall in the police station
FLocke give Sawyer a map
to the Elizabeth
and the rendezvous point |
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| Keys
& Codes |
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| S1E1 |
The
Marshall is knocked out and Kate uses the Marshall's handcuff
key |
| S1E2 |
Danielle
says in her radio
transmission that "Brennan took the keys" |
| S1E12 |
Jason
asks Mark Hutton, the bank manager for the money cage key
Kate uses the safe deposit box key
Jack and Kate dig up the Marshall to get
the gun case key
Jack puts the key for the gun case around
his neck |
| S1E15 |
Kate,
says that Ethan is back and it's time for Jack to use the gun
case key to get the guns for protection |
| S1E21 |
Shannon
steals the gun case key from Jack's neck |
| S1E22 |
Kate
grabs Tom's car keys |
| S2E3 |
Helen
gives Locke a key to her apartment
Helen grabs Locke's car keys and throws them over Anthony Cooper's
gate |
| S2E4 |
The
gun case key on Jack's neck is pulled magnetically by something
behind the wall |
| S2E7 |
Ana
Lucia says that The Others who have invaded their camp "have
no wallets, no cell phones, no keys, nothing" |
| S2E9 |
The
Marshall is knocked out and Kate uses the Marshall's handcuff
key |
| S2E15 |
Ethan
has a key on a Dharma key chain |
| S2E17 |
Locke
uses Anthony Cooper's key to get into Cooper's safe deposit
box for the money
Locke finds the map on the blast door, it is a key to the location
of the other hatches. Also each hatch is drawn to look like
a keyhole |
| S2E18 |
Hurley
steals Dr. Brook's keys from his office |
| S2E23 |
Desmond
gets his keys back when he is leaving prison |
| S2E24 |
Kelvin
shows Desmond the Fail Safe key and says "Turn this key
and it all goes away"
Desmond takes the Fail Safe key from Kelvin after he dies
Desmond uses the Fail Safe key |
| S3E3 |
Hurley
asks Desmond about the "...magic Fail Safe key" |
| S3E1-S3E7 |
Keys
used to open the locks on the cages that Kate and Sawyer are
kept in on Alcatraz |
| S3E7 |
Aldo
has the keys to Room 23 in his back pocket |
| S3E8 |
Fail
Safe key from S2E24 |
| S3E10 |
Hurley
gets the keys away from Vincent
David Reyes hands young Hurley the key
to the Camaro |
| S3E13 |
Richard
Alpert uses keys to unlock the handcuffs on Locke and to open
the door to the room where Anthony Cooper is seen |
| S3E14 |
Nikki
takes the key to the safe that Howard Zuckerman wears around
his neck |
| S3E15 |
Juliet
uses the handcuff
key that she had hidden in her pocket to release the handcuff
around her wrist
Juliet enters the numbers 4, 16 and 23 into the keypad
to turn the perimeter fence on |
| S3E16 |
Juliet
gives Rachel the keys
to the car
Juliet unlocks the hard
sided case with the serum |
| S3E18 |
Mr.
Paik enters numbers (7347) on the key pad to unlock the safe
Jin looks for the mail key in Sun's purse |
| S3E20 |
Young
Ben/Fake Henry enters the numbers 54439
into the keypad
and turns
off the sonic fence |
| S3E22 |
Charlie
enters
the code on the keypad
in the Looking Glass. It is the notes to "Good Vibrations"
by the Beach Boys
Jack uses a
key to break into the medicine cabinet and steal oxycodone
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| S4E1 |
Jack
has car keys
on the counter as he is pouring a screwdriver for himself.
As always, my car expert RobN was a huge help when he pointed
out that the car keys lack a remote control for keyless entry
and are all 100% metallic and are not modern keys with plastic
on the ends. Not sure what this indicates, perhaps Jack is
having a tough time financially. Which would be very interesting
since in this episode Hurley is the one who says to Bernard
that all his money will be gone when he gets back home and
he is so thrilled he does that cannonball into the water.
George Minkowski says the BOATies are "trying to get
a lock on your signal" Naomi enters some sort of coding
to change the frequency on the satellite phone and says "Just
tell my sister that I love her" in S4E2 we learn that
this is a coded message |
| S4E2 |
Miles
tells Jack and Kate that Naomi used a coded message to warn
the BOATies, "Just tell my sister that I love her"
Miles is shown turning off the ignition
key for his car while he is in front of Mrs. Gardner's house |
| S4E3 |
Daniel
asks Regina "I have a fix, are you locked in?" |
| S4E4 |
Locke
puts the tray down to open
the lock with the key
Kate shoots
the lock off the door to the room where Ben is held prisoner
Charlotte says "There is a another number that we're only
supposed to use in emergencies"
Locke has the grenade
pin in his hand |
| S4E5 |
Daniel
tells Desmond to tell him the numbers
to set the machine at in 1996 (2.342 at 11 Hz) and says "tell
me that you know about Eloise"
Penny tells Desmond her phone number |
| S4E6
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The
combination to Ben's safe is 36-15-28
There is a broken
key pad outside the Tempest |
| S4E8 |
Michael
uses a key
to open the lock
on the wooden crate
Michael uses a key
to open the lock on the hard-sided case that contains the C4
bomb
Michael enters the code 71776 into the key
pad on the bomb |
| S4E9 |
Hurley
says to Sawyer during the Risk
game "Australia's the key to the whole game"
Alex enters
the code "1623" into the sonic
fence keypad to trip the panic switch for the early warning
system
Alex's actions cause the phone in Ben's house to ring and Locke
hears a a woman's voice repeating "Code 14J"
Ben's keys
to the hotel room in Tozeur, Tunisia
Ben has a passkey
for elevator
access to Widmore's Penthouse |
| S4E10 |
Jack
has keys in his hand as he locks
the door behind him after entering Kate's house
Kate has keys in her hand as she approaches the counter top
when she gets home |
| S4E11 |
Captain
Gault wears a key to the safe around his neck
Keamy
wears a key to the safe around his neck |
| S4E12 |
David
Reyes hands Hurley the keys to the Camaro on a White
Rabbit's foot key chain |
| S5E1 |
The
keys to Kate's car
The keys
to Hurley's vehicle |
| S5E2 |
Kate's
car keys
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| S5E4 |
Sayid
finds keys
in Tony's pocket
Sayid takes Ben's
keys |
| S5E6 |
Ray
uses his keys
to open the lock to his room and then places them on the table
Kate brings some keys
to the table and is seen moving them to another spot on the
table |
| S5E8 |
Amy
enters
the numbers into the keypad
on the sonic fence pylon |
| S5E10 |
Ivan
Andropov tries using several locks
to keep Sayid out of his apartment
Ivan Andropov enters a code
into the key pad on his hidden safe
Radzinsky uses keys
to open the cell door
Sawyer
uses keys to open the cell
Young Ben uses
keys to open Sayid's cell |
| S5E11 |
Roger's
keys
were used by Young Ben to let Sayid out of the cell
Sawyer enters
the numbers on the keypad on the sonic fence pylon |
| S5E13 |
Young Miles finds the key to Mr. Vonner's apartment hidden
under a statue of a white
rabbit
Sawyer
enters the numbers into the keypad on the pylon
Miles returns the van keys to a pegboard
at the motor pool |
| S5E14
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Juliet
gives Jack & Kate the code to the key pad on the sonic fence
(141727) and Kate later uses the code to turn off the fence
Miles
gives Daniel the keys to the jeep
Jack uses his janitor's keys to get into the gun locker at the
Motor Pool
There are van keys located on a peg board at the Motor Pool
(1, 2) |
| S5E16 |
Juliet
uses Mitch's
keys to open their handcuffs |
| S6E1 |
Kate
tries to use a ball point pen to open her handcuffs
The airport
employee and Kate
both enter the security code into the lock on the airport door |
| S6E4
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Helen
enters a code into the sprinkler system control box |
| S6E5 |
Jack
places his keys on the dresser in his bedroom
Jack takes the
key to David's house out from under a rabbit
Jack kicks in the door
of the Lighthouse when they
can't get in |
| S6E7 |
One
of the teachers
in the teachers lounge is wearing a key on his belt |
| S6E9 |
The
doctor has keys
to the cabinet where he stores the medicine
Esau/MIB finds the keys
to the handcuffs on one of the officers |
| S6E12 |
Hurley
asks Desmond if he wants a Cluckateer key chain |
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Saving/Safe |
The
following quotes are all concerned with a character's cooperation
with other LOSTies by helping to save someone. Saving is an
activity that probably results in gaining points. It is most
often associated with the roles of the Lifeguard (actions
and activities that save lives), the Man of Faith (saving
someone's soul) and the Doctor (treating illnesses and injuries).
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| S1E2 |
Shannon
says "He saved our lives"
Hurley says "...we're saved"
Kate asks "What makes you think we're any safer here than
in the jungle?" |
| S1E3 |
Jack
says "Trying to save his life"
Marshall says "You know , you would have got away if you
hadn't saved him" |
| S1E4 |
Boone
says "You're the one that saved her life" |
| S1E5 |
Boone
says "You should have saved her"
Jack says "But I didn't save her. And neither did you"
Jack says "A woman died this morning just going for a swim
and he tried to save her"
Christian Shephard says to Jack "You don't want to be a
hero. You don't want to try and save everyone because when you
fail.. you just don't have what it takes." |
| S1E7 |
Boone
says "Be safe" to Charlie |
| S1E13 |
Charlie
says "And then he saved my life" and "...but
if there is one person on this island I would put my absolute
faith in to save us all, it would be John Locke"
Shannon says to Boone "When we get back to LA you should
just tell your mother that you rescued me again, just like
you always do. And then we'll go back" |
| S1E17 |
Jin
says "I just saved your life" |
| S1E20 |
Jack
says "I'm going to save you", "because I saved
her life" and "If I don't stop it, I won't be able
to save him"
Sun says "You can't save him Jack" |
| S1E21 |
Robbie
Hewitt tells Sayid "You'll be saving lives" |
| S1E23 |
Jin
says to Sun "I have to go because I'm going to save you"
and "Stay with Jack. He will keep you safe."
Sun asks Jin "Who will keep you safe?" |
| S1E24 |
Michael
says "You just saved our ass, buddy" and "I
couldn't figure it out. Why does a guy who only cares for
himself want to risk his life to save everyone else?"
Locke says "Three to be safe" and Jack replies "Safe"
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| S2E1 |
Jack
says "We blew the door so we could get everyone inside
this thing so they could be safe" and "And to save
everybody's lives"
Locke replies "And to save everybody's lives" |
| S2E2 |
Michael
says "For you trying to save your own ass?"
Sawyer replies "I was trying to save your damn kid"
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| S2E3 |
Desmond
says that when he asked Kelvin about pushing the buttons,
Kelvin replied "Just saving the world" and then
Desmond says "And we saved the world together for a while
and that was lovely" |
| S2E6 |
Ana
Lucia says "Just so you can save your little hick friend
over here" and "You risked our lives to save him" |
| S2E7 |
Libby
says "You saved that girl's life"
Ana Lucia says "We're safe her now" |
| S2E9 |
Sawyer
says "Are we saved?" |
| S2E10 |
Eko
says "This man saved my life" and "Or is it forgiven
because it was you who were saved?"
Yemi says "Do not get on that plane, Eko. You saved my
life once and now I'm here to save yours"
Eko says to Yemi "Because it was you that was saved"
Eko tells Yemi "Think of the lives you will save" |
| S2E11 |
Mr.
Friendly (Tom) says "Don't. Jack, the decision you gotta
make right now is this, can you live with the fact that I
shot this woman right in front of you, when you could have
saved her life by giving up and going home?" |
| S2E12 |
Liam
says 'You can't save your family, if you don't play"
Mr. Pace says "He ain't saving no one"
Liam says "Do it baby bro. Save us"
Mrs. Pace says "Save us Charlie. Save us" and "He's
in danger. You have to save him. The baby's in danger. You
have to save him. The baby's in terrible danger. He's in danger.
You have to save him. Danger. You have to save him. He's in
danger. You have to save him. The baby's in terrible danger.
He's in danger. You have to save him. The baby's in danger.
You have to save him"
Claire says "You have to save the baby. Charlie, only
you can save him. The baby. You have to save the baby. Charlie,
only you can save him. You have to save the baby, Charlie.
You have to save the baby Charlie. You have to save him. Charlie,
you have to save the baby."
Mr. Eko says "What if you do need to save the baby?"
Charlie sings with Liam "Together now, we can be saved"
Locke says "Charlie just feels like he has to save the
baby because he can't save himself"
Charlie says "I just wanted to save him" |
| S2E15 |
Claire
says "You were trying to save me" and "She saved
me, just like you did" |
| S2E19 |
Bernard
says "Everyone on this island is building something. I'm
trying to get us saved"
Mr. Eko says "People are saved in different ways" |
| S2E20 |
Michael
says "I couldn't save him" |
| S2E23 |
Someone
in the crowd says "Saved?" |
| S2E24 |
Kelvin
says "Fail Safe, this is the only other way out. Turn
this key and it all goes away" and "I lied to you
because I needed a sucker to save the world after I left"
Locke says "No, I just saved us all"
Desmond says "You saved my life, brother, so I could
save yours" |
| S3E2 |
Jin
asks "Safe?" and Sayid replies "Yes Jin, of course
it's safe"
Sayid says to Sun "I think you'll be safer on the boat" |
| S3E3 |
Locke
says "I'm going to save Mr. Eko's life"
Charlie says "The island told Locke he has to save Eko"
and Hurley replies "Save him from what?"
Locke says "...wouldn't have had to save him in the first
place" and I could have saved them"
Eko replies "You can still save them" |
| S3E4 |
Paulo
says to Desmond "This mean that you're off to save the
day?"
Jack says "so you tell me Juliet, who am I here to save?" |
| S3E5 |
Charlie
says "Before or after we saved him from the polar bear
cave?"
Jack says to Ben/Fake Henry "You want me to save your life"
and he replies "I want you to want to save my life"
One of Juliet's cards says "It has to look as if we tried
to save him"
Eko says "when I was a young boy, I killed a man to save
my brother's life" |
| S3E6 |
Kate
says to Sawyer "To save your life" and Sawyer replies
"My life don't need saving"
Kate says to Sawyer You don't want Jack to save your life, then
you're gonna save your own" |
| S3E7 |
Jack
tells Kate "When you get safe, you radio and tell me that
story"
Jack asks Kate "So you're safe? You and Sawyer?"
Kate says to Jack "You fixed her, you saved her"
Jack asks Juliet "What did he say that made you want to
save his life?" |
| S3E8 |
Desmond
saves Claire from drowning
Desmond saves Charlie from drowning and electrocution
Charlie sings on the corner "You're gonna be the one that
saves me"
Mrs. Hawking tells Desmond "...and if you don't do those
things, Desmond David Hume, every single one of us is dead"
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| S3E9 |
Jack
says to Tom "You just helped me save his life"
Tom says to Jack "You risk your neck to cut them loose
and they run away and never look back"
Alex asks Jack about Ben "Why'd you save his life?"
he replies "I saved you father because I said I would" |
| S3E10
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David
Reyes says to Hurley "You saved it. You saved it"
Kate tells Danielle "It's all right, it's safe" |
| S3E11 |
Amira
says she forgives Nadia when he bites her "...because sometimes
he forgets that he is safe now" |
| S3E12 |
Kate
asks Mikhail Bakunin/Patchy "If Ben is so magnificent,
then why did he need us to save him?"
Dr. Woodruff says "these machines are sustaining her life" |
| S3E13 |
When
Kate asks Jack about the people that the Others took, he replies
"They're all safe." |
| S3E14 |
Kate
says about the guns "I promise you they're safe"
Locke tells Paolo "You should put that shovel away and
save yourself some trouble" |
| S3E15 |
Kate
saves Juliet from the monster
Juliet saves Kate from the monster
Juliet twice asks Kate, "Are we safe?" |
| S3E16 |
Ben
tells Juliet "If you stay, I promise you, we will save
Rachel's life"
Sawyer questions Jack's judgment"Ben, who's life you saved?"
Juliet says "We tried to save her life" and Jack replies
"By kidnapping her?"
Ben/Fake Henry tells Juliet "Tell Jack that you can save
her. He trusts you" |
| S3E17 |
Desmond
says to Charlie "I've saved your live 3 times now. If that
hasn't earned me trust, I don't know what will" |
| S3E18 |
Jin's
mother tells Sun "...you will spare him the shame of knowing
the truth"
Charlie tells Desmond "You're out of your mind. It's not
safe"
Desmond says "I'm saving her" |
| S3E19 |
Desmond
says about Naomi "If we keep her safe, she's our way off
this island" |
| S3E20 |
S3E20
Sayid explains to Kate about Naomi "We kept her a secret
to keep her safe" |
| S3E21 |
Alex
reminds Karl that "Austen and Ford saved your life. You
owe them"
Liam tells Charlie he is giving
him the Drive Shaft ring because he needs "to know
that it is safe"
Charlie sings "...maybe you're gonna be the one that saves
me" from "Waterwall" by Oasis |
| S3E22 |
Dr.
Hamil says to Jack "Mrs. Arlen, the woman you saved.."
Hurley tells Jack over the walkie talkie "I saved um"
and "I saved them all"
Jack tells Hurley to stay on the beach "You'll be safer
there"
Ben/Fake Henry says to Jack "I know you think you're saving
your people, but you need to stop this. It's a mistake",
when Jack replies "The mistake was listening to you"
Ben says "I'm telling you that making that call is the
beginning of the end" |
| S4E2 |
Miles
pushes Dan out of the helicopter
Dan tells Jack & Kate "I'm here to rescue you"
Locke tells his group that "Walt saved my life"
Frank Lapidus reports that he put the helicopter down "safe
and sound" |
| S4E3 |
Sayid
tells Frank about Charlotte "I can bring her back safely"
and Frank replies "You bring Charlotte back safe and I
will take you off this island"
Elsa tells her boss"I'll meet you at the safe house" |
| S4E4 |
Jack
tells the court room about Kate "She tried to save the
others..."
Sawyer tells Kate "I'll keep you safe" |
| S4E6 |
Juliet
tells Jack "It's safer for you if I don't talk about it"
Daniel insists to Juliet that he is not trying to release the
gas, that he is trying to "make it safe" |
| S4E7 |
Kate
says to Sun and Jin "Be safe, okay?" |
| S4E8 |
Gault
says "I'm not beating these men to scare you. I beat them
to save your lives"
Ben gives Alex and Danielle the map
to The Temple
and says "This is a map to the Temple, it's a sanctuary.
It may be the last safe place on this island."
Tom/Mr. Friendly tells Michael about Widmore "He'll kill
them all without thinking twice" and also tells Michael
"You're going so you can kill everyone on board"
Tom/Mr. Friendly tells Michael "The only way you're gonna
save their lives is if you man up and get on that boat"
Ben tells Michael "That way the boat can never get to this
island and your friends will be safe" |
| S4E9 |
Ben
tells Sawyer "Don't bother, they're safe. I send Rousseau,
Alex and Karl away yesterday" |
| S4E10 |
Daniel
says to Charlotte "Why don't you let me go first, you know,
make everything safe"
Dr. Erika Stevenson says "Thank you for keeping us safe"
when Jack tells her about the battery in the smoke alarm
Kate tells Juliet "Thank you for saving his life"
Jack says to Kate "I'm the one who saved you" |
| S4E11 |
Sayid
tells Captain Gault that t"he only way to save our lives
is to get our people off that island"
Hurley asks Locke "Do you think me wandering through the
jungle by myself is any safer?"
Gault tells Sayid to follow a compass heading of 305 "Faraday
says that's the only safe way to and from the boat"
Locke asks "How do I save the island" and he later
tells Ben "He wants me to move the island" |
| S4E12 |
Daniel
tells Sayid "I can get them there safely"
Kate says to Sun about Aaron "keep him safe"
Frank Lapidus says "Your buddies were smart enough to keep
their asses on the boat, because right now, that's the safest
place to be" |
| S4E13 |
Jack
tells Kate about Jeremy Bentham telling them to go back to the
island "...he said it was the only way I could keep you
safe"
Ben says to Kate "...you and Sayid have a safe journey
back"
Daniel tells Juliet "Everybody's safe"
Jack asks Sayid "Is it safe?", Sayid replies "It's
safe now"
Juliet tells Daniel, "I promised I wouldn't leave till
I got everyone here safely off this island"
Sayid tells Hurley that he is taking him to "Somewhere
safe" |
| S5E1 |
Charles
Widmore tells Kate "Save your breath"
Hurley says to Sayid "I thought this was supposed to be
a safe house"
Richard tells Locke "The only way to save this island John,
is to get your people back here"
Penny tells Desmond "You're safe now" |
| S5E2 |
Ben
tells Jack "John's casket is outside in a carpet van. I
need to move it somewhere safe" Jack says 'Safe? He's dead
isn't he?"
Hurley tells his father "No
we were at a safe house"
Hurley tells his father about Sayid "He saved me"
Jill tells Ben about watching over Locke "He'll be safe
with me"
Ben says "Keep him safe Jill" |
| S5E3 |
Desmond
says that Daniel told him "...I was the only one that could
save them"
Locke tells Juliet about Richard "He was about to tell
me how to save us" and Juliet asks"Save us?"
Sawyer says to Locke when Daniel is being marched off at gunpoint
by Ellie "Faraday, the guy that's actually gonna save us"
and "You're not gonna help me save him?"
Widmore asks Desmond about Penny "Is she safe?" |
| S5E4 |
Jack
tells Kate "If we're gonna be safe, if we're gonna protect
the people we left behind, tomorrow morning I'm gonna have to
convince everyone to lie"
Locke says I believe I can save us"
Hurley tells Jack "I'm totally safe"
Ben says to Sayid"You have friends in trouble. Let's get
them to safety and save the dirty laundry for later"
Locke says "Sorry" to Sawyer
Sawyer asks Locke why he didn't tell himself to do things differently
"Save yourself a lot of pain"
Ben asks Sayid "Why'd you take it on yourself to rescue
Hugo?" and Sayid replies "I had to make sure he was
safe"
Jack tells Kate "What matters is that we get you and Aaron
someplace safe" and Kate asks "Safe from who?" |
| S5E5 |
Ben
tells Jack and Sun "If you had any idea what I've done
to keep you safe, to keep your friends safe...you'd never stop
thanking me"
Christian Shepard tells Locke "You asked me how to save
the island and I said that you to move it" |
| S5E7 |
Locke
tells Sayid "This is the only way to save them"
Ben claims that he is "...watching all of them. Keeping
them safe"
Locke tells Ben "Widmore came to me, saved me" |
| S5E8 |
Sawyer
tells Amy "It's alright. It's okay. You're safe",
"...before we saved you" and "Listen sister,
we're the ones that just saved your life and hid those bodies,
so how about you just trust us and turn that damn thing off"
Sawyer says to Horace "If my friends are safe..."
Sawyer asks Horace "We just saved that woman's life, doesn't
that earn us a week or two to find the rest of our people?"
Amy says about Paul "He would want to keep us safe"
Juliet says 'Locke said that he was leaving to save us..."
and "we're already saved" |
| S5E9 |
Frank
says "Right now I'm just trying to keep everyone safe"
Sawyer tells Jack "For now, Sayid is safe" |
| S5E10 |
Sawyer
says "Lucky for you I spent that time getting myself in
a position to save your ass"
Amy says "How are we going to feel safe with this man around?" |
| S5E11 |
Kate tells Jack "Unless you're the one who's supposed to
save him"
Jack says "I've already saved Benjamin Linus. And I did
it for you Kate. I don't need to do it again"
Roger tells Juliet "I want to say thanks. I know that you're
doing everything you can to save him"
Juliet tells Jack about Kate "She's trying to save him"
Jack says "I came back here because I cared Juliet. I came
back here because I was trying to save you" and Juliet
responds "We didn't need saving. We've been fine for three
years. You came back here for you"
Kate says to Richard Alpert "We need you to save is life" |
| S5E12 |
Charles
Widmore tells Young Ben "This island, it saved your life" |
| S5E13 |
Hurley tells Miles "Don't worry dude, your secret's safe
with me"
Naomi tells Miles that she is looking for a man (Ben) responsible
for a number of deceased individuals" and Miles replies
"Much as hunting down a mass murderer sounds safe..."
Hurley says to Miles "But all these Dharma dudes end up
dead. Don't you want to save him? and Miles replies "I
can't save him" They're gonna get killed no matter what
I do, so why bother?" |
| S5E15 |
Sawyer
says "He's right, it ain't safe"
Kate tells Sayid about Young Ben "Sawyer and me took him
to the Others so they could save him"
Sayid says "If this works you just might save us all..." |
| S5E16 |
Jack
tells Hurley "If you want to save Sayid, take us to the
Swan"
Jack tells Kate "If you want to save Claire, this is the
only way to do it"
Jack says to Sayid "This is gonna work and it will save
you", Sayid replies "Nothing will save me" |
| S6E1 |
Jacob
tells Hurley "I need you to save Sayid" by taking
him to the Temple and "The rest of them will be safe
there"
Hurley says "There's a Temple, if we can get Sayid there,
we can save him"
As Sayid is thrashing about in the water, Hurley yells "You're
not saving him, you're drowning him" |
| S6E3 |
Lennon says to Kate about Sawyer "It's very important that
he gets back here safely" |
| S6E4 |
Ilana
tells Sun, Lapidus and Ben that the Temple is the "safest
place on the island" |
| S6E5 |
Claire
says to Jin "I can get you somewhere safe" |
| S6E6 |
Sayid
tells Miles "Which is surprising considering they were
the ones who saved my life" and Miles responds "They
tried to save you but you were dead man, for 2 hours"
Nadia asks Sayid "Just, go home?", "Wait for
the kids" and "Make them feel safe"
Lennon says "Cindy, wait. You're all safe here" and
CIndy answers "...and if it isn't safe here anymore..."
Dogen tells Sayid "He told me that he could save my son's
life but I would have to come here and I could never see my
boy again"
Claire tells Kate "You'll be much safer in here" |
| S6E7 |
Sun
says to Ilana "You said that we were safe at the Temple
Ben tells Ilana about Alex's death "I had a chance to save
her" |
| S6E8 |
Ava
asks "How come no one came to save you?" and Sawyer
responds "I don't need saving"
Sawyer tells FLocke "Well, that sounds safe..."
FLocke says to Kate "I promised before that I would keep
everyone safe"
Sawyer tells Widmore "You give us safe passage off the
island" |
| S6E9 |
Richard
says to Isabella "I will save you"
The doctor tells Richard "I have medicine that can save
her life... but it's very expensive"
Isabella says to Richard"I'm here to save you" and
"I said I would save you"
Richard tells Esau/MIB "I must save her" |
| S6E10 |
Zoe
tells Jin "Relax, you're safe"
Keamy says "Your secret is safe with me"
Sun says "...not so I could save the damn world" |
| S611 |
Widmore
tells Desmond about Penny "Both she and your son are perfectly
safe" |
| S6E13 |
Simon
Holt says "That thing probably saved his life", about
Locke's wheel chair |
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Numbers & Time |
I
am going to ask you, before you even start reading this section,
to please be patient and to read through it before you make
any judgments. Keep an open mind and consider the possibilities
presented here.
First,
let's start with one of the earliest story lines from Season
1. The Jin /Michael conflict over Mr. Paik's watch S1E6. In
fact, there are an incredible number of characters who still
continue to wear watches including Michael who says to Jin
in S1E6 that wearing a watch "...is ridiculous, since
time doesn't matter on a damn island".
So
why is there such a large emphasis on time, watches and clocks?
They matter, they matter very much, because there are time
limits imposed in the game.
Dating
and Timing discrepancies have always been problematic
because there are so many conflicts in the scripts. And, no
one can get a straight answer from TPTB.
Just
before the beginning of Season 3 the audience was presented
with another Dating & Timing Issue. One of the first Season
3 teaser ads said that the LOSTies arrived on the island "65
Days Ago". Shortly afterwards, they released another
Season 3 teaser ad and that one said "67 Days Ago".
TPTB
usually blame questionable dating and timing references on
either their own Props Department or on the ABC Marketing
Department.
Yes,
I know there's a discussion with Greg Nations over on the
Fuselage in which he claims that the discrepancy in the Teaser
Ads was another mistake by ABC's Marketing Department. So
please, don't bother sending me an email to tell me that I
don't know what I'm talking about. Just bear with me and continue
reading.
Go
to the Mistakes
page and look over Mistakes
That Are Important and tell me this - how it is possible
for the Props Department to make such blatant errors with
the single most important prop that is associated with each
of the main characters? And how are we expected to believe
that that they are continuing to make repeated mistakes with
dating and timing issues?
I
just don't buy it. On my About
page, I discuss the fact that TPTB are marketing geniuses
and I do not believe that there is a snowball's chance in
hell that ABC would release any Teaser Ads without them having
first been reviewed by TPTB. Guys, it just doesn't happen
that way in the world of Marketing. I know. I've spent 25
years in Marketing. The person responsible for these types
of errors would, at best, be damn sure they didn't happen
again; and at worst, they would be fired.
And
then, along came Comic Con 2006.
The
dating and timing issue was even further confused during Comic
Con in July 2006, Lindelof stated that "the survivors
may not actually be on the island as long as they think they
have been."
So once again which is it? 65 days or 67 days? The
answer is that perhaps both are correct.
Here's
how I believe that the dating and timing works.
The
Numbers (4,8,15,16,23,42) are many things in the show, but
one of the most important things that they represent are time
limits. They are the number of days on the island that are
allowed in each level of the game for all tasks to be completed
prior to being allowed to move on to the next level.
There
will be a total of six levels, with Level 1=42 days, Level
2=23 days, Level 3=16 days, Level 4=15 days, Level 5=8 days
and Level 6=4 days.
Season
1/Level 1 allowed the LOSTies 42 days to complete their tasks.
Season
2/Level 2 allowed the LOSTies 23 days to complete their tasks
and also introduced the 108 minute time limit between the
numbers being entered and the possible consequences of missing
the correct timing.
That
makes a total of 65 days = Level 1/42 days + Level
2/23 days
So,
how can it also be 67 days?
Consider
that when Desmond asks Locke in S2E1 how many days it has
been since the plane crash, Locke replies 44 days. And also
consider the fact that in S2E18 Locke makes the statement
"I earned 5 minutes with him".
I
think its possible that for Locke it has been 44 days, not
42 days. How could that be? Well, I believe that the 'game
player', has actually earned Locke 2 extra days.
How
would they earn extra time? I'm not sure, but it would probably
be for accomplishing something big. Maybe it was the result
of Locke finding both the Swan Hatch and the Pearl Hatch?
Or for watching the Swan Hatch Orientation film more than
once? Or, perhaps, for providing food?
I'm
not sure of exactly what it was that earned him the extra
time. But, I am sure that it was earned.
In
S3E2, we have Ben/Fake
Henry claiming that the plane crashed on Sept. 22, 2004,
that it's now November 29th and that the LOSTies have been
on the island for 69 days. Yet, during the October
17 2006 Podcast, Damon Lindelof says "Ben told us
its November 29th 2006. But, I wouldn't trust those Others".
S3E12
finally confirmed the number of days that the LOSTies have
been on the island. Claire writes
in the note that she attaches to the seagull, that they
have been on the island for 80 days. Therefore, at that point
in the game, they are one day away from the end of Level 3
and there will be another reset of the characters at the beginning
of Level 4. See Levels for
the number of days in each level.
The
date covered in S3E13 includes the balance of day and night
on Day 80 and the early morning hours of Day 81. We know from
the
clock in Ben/Fake Henry's living room that it's just about
4:00am as Locke is getting ready to blow up the Galaga.
S3E14
covered day 80 on the LOSTies side of the island. We know
this from the "80
Days Ago" seen at the bottom of the screen during
the Nikki and Paolo flashback when they are in the airport.
As
S3E14 had ended, S3E15 began with the Others side of the island
being shown in a time frame slightly ahead of the LOSTies
side of the island.
S3E15
begins on The Others side of the island just after Jack has
visited Kate in the early morning hours of Day 81. Juliet
brings Kate food while it is still dark. There are birds singing
outside just before Juliet enters the room. Birds don't sing
at night, but they do sing just before the sun comes up. Locke
comes to visit Kate during the daylight hours of Day 81, the
Others gas Kate on day 81 and she and Juliet begin their trek
through the jungle. The reset (flashes) occur during the night
of Day 81/predawn hours of Day 82.
In
S3E15 the day that Kate and Juliet spend by the Perimeter
Fence and returning to get Sayid and Jack in New Otherton
is Day 82. The first day of Level 4.
However,
at the beginning of S3E15 on the LOSTies side of the island,
we are slightly behind on the timeline of New Otherton.
It
is still Day 80 when Hurley speaks to Sawyer about banishment.
I totally disagree with what the Lostpedia timeline says about
this day. And I am comforted by the fact that so many people
are questioning why Day 80 was so easy to identify and why
so many fans are confused by what days were seen in S3E15.
I
am basing the timeline I am using on what Sawyer says to Hurley
"You know how for 3 days, 10 hours and 15 minutes I ain't
allowed to use nicknames?" Given Sawyer's particular
speech patterns, I believe that he is referring to the time
during which he has not used nicknames, not the time he has
left before he can use them again.
In
that case, we are 3 days and 10 hours past Day 77 when he
lost the ping pong match to Hurley. And it is still Day 80.
That
makes Day 81 the day he goes hunting with Desmond, hosts the
luau and steps up to be Leader.
The
good news for Sun is that in S3E18 she discussed the fact
that she probably will live for at least another two months
(60 days) from day 90. That means that Sun would only survive
on the island until about day 150. That is well past Day 108.
Therefore, there should not be any problem with Sun dying
from whatever has killed all of the Other pregnant women,
she should be rescued by then! And of course along came S4E7
and we learned that Sun is one of the Oceanic 6.
What
about the 2006
model phone that Jack was using in S3E22? Not a problem.
They will only spend 108 days on the island. So they will
leave the island for good on January 7, 2005. Therefore, there
is no conflict with a phone being shown that was first marketed
in 2006.
Level
4 ended and Level 5 began on Day
97.
S4E8
took place on the night of Day 98 and S4E9 takes place on
during Day 99. S4E10 took place on Day 100. Sawyer wakes up
on Day 101 to find Claire is missing.
S4E11
begins on Day 100 for Locke, Ben and Hurley as they walk through
the jungle. They find Jacob's cabin on the night of Day 101.
The LOSTies are seen on the beach on the night of Day 101.
However, it is apparently only Day 99 on the Kahana, as that
is the day that Faraday sent the Morse Code message about
Dr. Ray. So once again we are faced with the two day discrepancy
that has been cropping up since Season 1.
S4E12
starts on the beach on the evening of Day 101 and covers the
activities on the island on Day 102.
In
S3E13, the Oceanic 6 leave the island on Day 102. They spend
a week on Penny's boat and are then "rescued on Day 108"
However, the Oceanic 6 have only spent 102 days on the island.
For a discussion of what that means to the game, see the section
on Time Out. |
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| LOST
Time |
S3E7
introduced Mittelos
Bioscience. An anagram for "LOST Time". This
was confirmed by Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse in the February
12, 2007 podcast.
S3E7
also introduced the concept of rapid ageing. Juliet is shown
scans of a woman's uterus and she says "Judging from
the decomposition of the endometrium, I'd say she's somewhere
in her 70's." Richard Alpert them replies "She's
26" and implies that Mittelos Bioscience is somehow behind
the rapid ageing.
A
fabulous concept to add at this point. Now, when they bring
Walt back (S3E22), they won't have to worry that he has grown
up so much more quickly than the he should have on the show.
They can use the excuse that he underwent some type of a treatment
similar to the woman in the scans. In fact when we saw Walt
at the window in S4E8, he was the younger version of Walt,
not "Taller Ghost Walt" as Sawyer had called him.
One
other thing to mention here, Juliet's statement in S3E7- "I've
been here 3 years, 2 months and 28 days" may also be
a a reference to the fact that she has been held as a prisoner
by Ben/Fake Henry and has "LOST Time" from her life.
S4E3
brought us another time issue. Daniel has Regina fire a payload
from the freighter. When the payload
arrives, the timer
inside the payload indicates a different time than Daniel's
timer. There is a 31 minute and 20 second difference between
the two, And in S4E5 we again face the question of exactly
which day is it on the Kahana?
S4E9
brings in time issues again when Jack questions Daniel about
when he last saw Dr. Ray alive and Daniel claims that "when
is relative"
S4E10
finally adds a date back in the real world. The newspaper
clipping about the Yankee vs. Red Sox game is from August
31, 2007. Which would make Aaron approximately 2 years 10
months old and finally accounts for his age as one of the
Oceanic 6.
S4E11
begins on Day 100 for Locke, Ben and Hurley as they walk through
the jungle. They find Jacob's cabin on the night of Day 101.
The LOSTies are seen on the beach on the night of Day 101.
However, it is apparently only Day 99 on the Kahana, as that
is the day that Faraday sent the Morse Code message about
Dr. Ray. So once again we are faced with the two day discrepancy
that has been cropping up since Season 1. See
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| Game
Prompts |
The
'game players' sit at their computers and play the game by
creating the main characters’ lives. This is done by
choosing details about their everyday lives on the island
and by manipulating the main characters' individual stories
(flashbacks).
This
is done quite simply by the 'game players' responding to a
series of prompts or pre-set options during the game about
the five
basic types of characters on LOST. The Season 2 Finale introduced
what may possibly be a sixth category of characters. That
is, characters that are not on the island and are not a part
of a flashback (i.e.: Penny Widmore and the two researchers
in the remote snowy tracking station). Hopefully we will learn
more about them in Season 3. For now, it is entirely possible
that the writers are throwing us for a loop again and that
these characters are not really what they seem to be.
The
'game player' chooses options about what happens on and off
of the island and these options then create what we see as
the show. A list of pre-set game options also results in all
of the duplications
that occur on LOST.
You
can scroll down through the types of prompts or pre-set options
that are presented to the 'game players', or you can click
on the appropriate category below to jump down the page to
that category.
Main
Characters
Support Characters on Flight
815
Flashback Characters
Support Characters Already on
Island at the Time of the Crash
The Island as a Character
Main Characters
o Pick a Character (i.e.: Jack, Kate,
Sawyer, Sayid, Claire, Hurley, Charlie, Walt, Michael, Jin,
Sun, Shannon, Boone, Locke)
o Choose an avatar for the character (many characters resemble
each other)
o Were they traveling alone? Did travel partner survive the
crash?
o Is character married? Divorced? Single? Gay?
o Where is character from? (i.e.: US, Australia, England,
Iraq, etc)
o What does this person do for a living? (i.e.: artist, doctor,
lottery winner, soldier, rock star, con man, etc.)
o Where were they seated?
o Where did this character wind up after the crash? (i.e.:
LOSTie or Tailie)
o What did they bring with them? (i.e.: dog, compass &
knives, dead father, picture of girlfriend, diary, guitar,
etc.)
o Has this person been injured in the crash?
o Has this person been injured in the past?
o Is this character pregnant?
o Does this person have any addictions? (i.e.: alcohol, drugs,
food, etc.)
o How do they get along with other crash survivors?
o Is this person injured on the island?(i.e.: hurt an arm/leg,
shot, attacked by an animal, etc.)
o Does this person die? How?
Support Characters on Flight 815
o Add a support character from a list
of names
o Choose an avatar for the character (many characters resemble
each other)
o Where was the character seated? (i.e.: front, middle or
back of the plane)
o Where did this character wind up after the crash? (i.e.:
LOSTie or Tailie)
o Were they traveling alone? Did partner survive crash?
o Is this person alive or dead? Sick?
o Is character married? Divorced? Single? Gay?
o Where is character from? (i.e.: US, Australia, England,
Canada, etc)
o What does person do for a living? (i.e.: owns a frozen yogurt
store, dentist, psychiatrist, etc.)?
o What did they bring with them? (i.e.: golf clubs, books,
medicine, guns, etc.)
o Is this character pregnant?
o Does this person have any addictions? (i.e.: alcohol, drugs,
food, etc.)
o Has this person been injured? (i.e.: lost/hurt an arm/leg,
broken/hurt neck, shot, attacked by an animal, etc.)
o
Is this person injured on the island?(i.e.: hurt an arm/leg,
shot, attacked by an animal, etc.)
o
Does this person die? How?
Flashback Characters
o Add a support character from a list
of names (this will be important as there are many support
characters with the same name).
o Choose an avatar for the character (many characters resemble
each other)
o How is this person related to the main characters?
o Is character married? Divorced? Single? Gay?
o Where is character from? (i.e.: US, Australia, England,
Iraq, France, etc.)
o What does person do for a living?
o Is this persona friend or enemy?
o Is this person alive or dead? Sick?
o Has this person been injured? (i.e.: lost/hurt an arm/leg,
broken/hurt neck, shot, etc.)
o How were they injured?
o Is this character pregnant?
o Does this person have any addictions? (i.e.: alcohol, drugs,
food, etc.)
o Does this person die? How?
Support Characters on the Island
at the Time of the Crash
o Add a support character from a list
of names (this will be important as there are not only many
support characters with similar names.
o Choose an avatar for the character (many
characters resemble each other)
o How did they arrive on island? (i.e.: crashed boat, crashed
plane, crashed balloon)
o In what year did they arrive?
o Where is character from? (i.e.: US, Australia, England,
Iraq, France, etc)
o Is character married? Divorced? Single? Gay?
o Is this person a friend or enemy of the Losties?
o Is this person alive or dead? Sick?
o Does this person get hurt? Die?
o What did they bring with them? (i.e.: drugs, money, guns,
batteries, syringes, boat, etc.)
o Has this person been injured? (i.e.: lost/hurt an arm/leg,
broken/hurt neck, shot, etc.)
o Is this character pregnant?
o Does this person have any addictions? (i.e.: alcohol, drugs,
food, etc.)
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Does this person die? How?
The Island as a Character
The writers have stated that the Island
is a Character.
o The geography of the island is apparent in the maps we have
seen; however, it seems that the maps created by Danielle
and Kelvin are not always accurate.
o How big is the island?
o Is it sunny or raining?
o Is the tide coming in or going out?
o Is there any type of shelter on the island? (i.e.: Caves,
Hatches, etc.)
o What food sources are available?
o What animals are on the island?
o What is the monster/security system? (i.e.: black smoke,
rain storm, boar, polar bear, etc.)
o What is the Black Rock? (i.e.: Pirate ship, a rock near
the line in the sand, used instead of golf balls, use to build
the SOS sign, Big Rock with hole in it)
o How many hatches and stations are there and where are they
located? (i.e.: Swan, Pearl, Arrow, Medical, Danielle's bunker,
etc.)?
o What is in each hatch and station?
o What is Dharma? Widmore? Paik Industries? (i.e.: Widmore
Construction vs. Widmore Labs)
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| Winning |
There
are 108 on-island days for Light to accomplish their objectives.
These are broken into Levels.
So
they have to accomplish their goals within the set number
of days for each level or they'll have less time to get things
done in the next level. In each level the number of days gets
smaller and smaller (42,23,16,15,8,4), making it tougher and
tougher to accomplish what they need to do to meet their objectives.
Dark
on the other hand wants to stop Light from doing what it needs
to accomplish.
I
think both sides can probably earn points and then use their
points to help them do what they need to do. Which means that
if they gain points they could have an advantage in accomplishing
something.
So
let's say that Light has provided food and water, they gain
points. They could then use those points to earn weapons.
And
let's say that Dark earns some points for kidnapping someone,
then they could use their points to have the monster attack.
At
the end of the 108 on-island days, if Light has accomplished
everything in their 108 on-island days, they win.
If
Dark has stoppS3E3 Charlie says "Now that we've survived
this suicide mission are you going to tell me what you saw?"ed
them from doing everything, they win.
In
either case it is GAME OVER after 108 on-island days.
Thanks to Carlos for reminding me of this again, he feels
that instead of saying LOST at the end of the last episode,
as it always does, it will simply say "WON" |
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